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Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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They already have a platform-level subscription. It's Twitch Turbo and costs ~$10/month. Removes all ads on the site. I don't think creators get any portion of it like with YouTube Premium though.

IIRC I heard years ago that Turbo "pays" the streamer for the non-watched ads which have been removed for the Turbo user, i.e. fractions of a cent, i.e. nothing. All it does is paying Twitch for doing fuck-all.

So Turbo pays the streamer the same amount per stream as the non-Turbo ad supported account? That sounds good and fair. I don't know why you would expect otherwise.

Heck, Turbo users probably watch more videos and so are better customers even at the same rate.

Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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How? Youtube will take automatic action against peoples channels and then there will be no way to interact with a real human to resolve the situation. The whole system seems like a random black box that does not care for its users.

A channel I like is having to test various patterns of swearing and swear-bleeping to try to narrow down what exactly suddenly changed that wrecked their monetization, which had been fine for years and years. They can't just ask YouTube what they need to do to be OK again. It's really dumb. Also, creators on a platform that grew its original userbase through piracy and media re-mixes with little or no content-policin…

> A channel I like is having to test various patterns of swearing and swear-bleeping to try to narrow down what exactly suddenly changed that wrecked their monetization

This seems like such a stupid, pointless effort. Instead of pentesting to find exactly where the line is so you can toe it perfectly, why not... just stay far away from the line and stop swearing. Wouldn't that be much less effort and less risk?

Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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I don't know why you'd say that, for a lot of people, the birth of their first child changes their priorities very fundamentally, especially if they have the luxury of being able to do so. Like, for example, if they had sold their company to Amazon for a literal dump truck of money . I just calculated it, it went for about 11 tons of $100 bills (the capacity of a large dump truck is about 14 tons, apparently, 7 for s…

> for a lot of people, the birth of their first child changes their priorities CEOs are not a lot of people. By definition they are extremely few in number, and those who become CEOs of top companies have a perhaps pathological drive to get there. For someone like that, an entirely predictable event -- like the birth of a child -- is the last thing that would make them sacrifice the position they've worked so hard fo…

I honestly don't understand the mentality that drives someone to keep working after they've made, say, $100 million. Maybe that's why we're all not that person. Even if you're the most single-minded, driven person ever, once you get that much wealth you've pretty much won the game. You did it, you're done. The show's over.

It's like continuing to play your Civilization game for "Just... One... More... Turn..." after you defeated everyone and you're the only civ left.

Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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Given that you have an issue with ads, how do you respond to the fact you can pay $5/month to subscribe to a specific streamer to avoid all ads? Would you prefer if there was a platform-level subscription level which allows you to avoid all platform-driven ads across all channels, similar to YouTube Premium, for example?

They already have a platform-level subscription. It's Twitch Turbo and costs ~$10/month. Removes all ads on the site. I don't think creators get any portion of it like with YouTube Premium though.

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Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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A channel I like is having to test various patterns of swearing and swear-bleeping to try to narrow down what exactly suddenly changed that wrecked their monetization, which had been fine for years and years. They can't just ask YouTube what they need to do to be OK again. It's really dumb. Also, creators on a platform that grew its original userbase through piracy and media re-mixes with little or no content-policin…

> A channel I like is having to test various patterns of swearing and swear-bleeping to try to narrow down what exactly suddenly changed that wrecked their monetization This seems like such a stupid, pointless effort. Instead of pentesting to find exactly where the line is so you can toe it perfectly, why not... just stay far away from the line and stop swearing. Wouldn't that be much less effort and less risk?

Might lose them audience & differentiation, depending on what's getting people to show up. Any change in tone or content would carry that risk (or, might improve it—hard to say until you try)

Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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A channel I like is having to test various patterns of swearing and swear-bleeping to try to narrow down what exactly suddenly changed that wrecked their monetization, which had been fine for years and years. They can't just ask YouTube what they need to do to be OK again. It's really dumb. Also, creators on a platform that grew its original userbase through piracy and media re-mixes with little or no content-policin…

> A channel I like is having to test various patterns of swearing and swear-bleeping to try to narrow down what exactly suddenly changed that wrecked their monetization This seems like such a stupid, pointless effort. Instead of pentesting to find exactly where the line is so you can toe it perfectly, why not... just stay far away from the line and stop swearing. Wouldn't that be much less effort and less risk?

If it makes the videos worse then probably not worth it

Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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Well I'd buy you a K-Car (a nice Reliant automobile)

Inflation has not been kind to the dreams of BNL.

It still probably works, but you won't have much left over.

https://www.reddit.com/r/theydidthemath/comments/7dyi7r/requ...

Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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Amazon has really done a number on what was a fun and useful platform for viewers and creators. It was totally "enshittened".

As one example, I can't even login to Twitch since a few months ago because "my browser is not supported". (EDIT to add: Tried with Firefox and Chromium, from both v3.17 and edge Alpine Linux repositories.) I don't know what kind of fingerprinting are they doing, but it's definitely not just user agent nor IP address nor browser version. I suspect they somehow detect that I'm using Alpine Linux (it's my main OS) and…

> I think this started happening shortly after they got a massive amount of new accounts being created.

Smells suspiciously like a hack to combat botnets.

Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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Maybe I missed it, but Wordpress seemed to handle creators really well. I've been saying for a while that the next big thing in streaming is Wordpress but for Streamers. Something relatively easy for small streamers to set up and manage on their own, cheap enough to start small and scale up as it starts to make money, with the ability to handle large-scale streams if necessary. I don't know how you would handle provi…

Could you give an example of someone who was making significant money (preferably by YT/Twitch standards but any example is good) on WordPress?

A sizable portion of the entire internet is running WordPress. That’s billions of dollars a year.
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