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Re: Triplebyte acquired by Karat

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Post by mustacheemperor »

warent wrote: post #26
tedivm wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I absolutely did review the interview, that was the whole point. I just wasn't willing to risk sending a potential candidate through a pipeline I myself hadn't gone through. I'm happy I caught the problems in advance myself, rather than subjecting someone I potentially wanted to hire to a useless interview. I do want to stress the useless part here too- even with the notes of how the interview went I wouldn't be able…

In summary, the beginning of a brand new business relationship, you demoed a single, first version of your custom purchase, you understood that it needed tuning, and then proceeded to immediately cut them without providing further direction. (EDIT: Note that I previously contracted with Karat and feel loyalty to them, but have no formal association or stake in them, nor do I represent them.)

Well, witnessing this behavior has certainly turned me off from considering Karat in the future. I often appreciate how on Hackernews, you can voice a criticism for an online service and someone from that service will show up, take accountability, and help out and/or take feedback - happened to me with the CEO of DuckDuckGo a while ago, a product I really like but had an issue with.

What a contrast this is.

Re: Triplebyte acquired by Karat

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Post by warent »

tedivm wrote: post #28
warent wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In summary, the beginning of a brand new business relationship, you demoed a single, first version of your custom purchase, you understood that it needed tuning, and then proceeded to immediately cut them without providing further direction. (EDIT: Note that I previously contracted with Karat and feel loyalty to them, but have no formal association or stake in them, nor do I represent them.)

To be clear, we gave a ton of feedback and direction before the demo. All of that was completely ignored. If it was a problem of just tweaking things or making changes then I would have done that, but the fact is that they completely ignored all of the input we had already given. I'm curious why you're so intense about this- do you have some sort of stake in karet?

I contracted with Karat previously, but don't have any present relationship with them or their executives.

Communication is hard, and not everyone has time or energy to bridge the gap, which is fair! It's just a bummer to hear that this has somehow lead to words like "awful", "real negative impact", "useless". That feels very intense to me, and I have probably responded in an intense way as well. There was no harm intended

Re: Triplebyte acquired by Karat

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Post by coward123 »

warent wrote: post #8
candiddevmike wrote: post #5

I hope all of these interview assessment companies go out of business. They don't produce quality candidates, and they're dehumanizing for the folks that have to use them.

This is not the feedback I've received, and I conducted like nearly 1000 interviews with Karat. On average we actually heard from people that Karat was their best experience by far, and that we made them feel like we were treating them as worthy individuals. Even people who got declined usually still left feeling quite positive, because we would turn the obviously-failed interview into, basically, a free hour coachin…

My experience was the same as tedvim above - it was utterly dehumanizing and there's no way I want that either for myself or for the people I hire. The interviewers were smug little shits who didn't take feedback to ask questions relevant to the position.

Further - you guys lurk all over HN commenting like this every time there's an interview thread. It's submarining and it's gross.

Re: Triplebyte acquired by Karat

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Post by tedivm »

triyambakam wrote: post #38
tedivm wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be clear, we gave a ton of feedback and direction before the demo. All of that was completely ignored. If it was a problem of just tweaking things or making changes then I would have done that, but the fact is that they completely ignored all of the input we had already given. I'm curious why you're so intense about this- do you have some sort of stake in karet?

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Can you delete this? I don't want a conversation that I'm having to lead to someone being harassed.

Re: Triplebyte acquired by Karat

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Post by Nextgrid »

coward123 wrote: post #43
warent wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is not the feedback I've received, and I conducted like nearly 1000 interviews with Karat. On average we actually heard from people that Karat was their best experience by far, and that we made them feel like we were treating them as worthy individuals. Even people who got declined usually still left feeling quite positive, because we would turn the obviously-failed interview into, basically, a free hour coachin…

My experience was the same as tedvim above - it was utterly dehumanizing and there's no way I want that either for myself or for the people I hire. The interviewers were smug little shits who didn't take feedback to ask questions relevant to the position. Further - you guys lurk all over HN commenting like this every time there's an interview thread. It's submarining and it's gross.

The rules at Karat may be that giving any kind of help pretty much automatically disqualifies the candidate, so technically they're better off giving you no help at all in the hopes you make as much progress on your own rather than ruining your interview by giving you help prematurely.

Re: Triplebyte acquired by Karat

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Post by S201 »

triyambakam wrote: post #38
tedivm wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be clear, we gave a ton of feedback and direction before the demo. All of that was completely ignored. If it was a problem of just tweaking things or making changes then I would have done that, but the fact is that they completely ignored all of the input we had already given. I'm curious why you're so intense about this- do you have some sort of stake in karet?

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Can we not doxx someone over a benign comment thread on HN?

Re: Triplebyte acquired by Karat

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Post by IshKebab »

burkaman wrote: post #31
maxk42 wrote: post #27

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Curious... I've been using LinkedIn for a job search and am unfamiliar with the questions to which you refer. How can I find and pass this test?

https://www.linkedin.com/skill-assessments/hub/quizzes/

They're very basic tests in comparison to Triplebyte though.

Re: Triplebyte acquired by Karat

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Post by pc86 »

the_jeremy wrote: post #10

I'm not surprised Triplebyte isn't standing on its own. I set up identical profiles and passed all the relevant quizzes at Triplebyte, Hired, and LinkedIn (all 3 offer timed, multiple choice question tests with limited retries), but only LinkedIn was able to match me with opportunities willing to pay what I was asking. Triplebyte and Hired both let you set a floor salary, but have no ability to set a floor total comp…

LinkedIn cold messages get a lot of (well deserved) flak but they can be very useful for moving to the next step in your career if you're willing to sort through the cruft. Of those ~dozen messages with competitive TC, I'm sure half probably had projects you wouldn't be interested in or were with companies/industries you didn't want to associate with. Some percentage of the remainder would choose not to move forward on their end for one reason or another. So out of 400+ messages you're likely down to 2-3 offers at the end of the process, and likely at different points in time.

Especially as the hiring markets starts (continues?) to contract at the middle and lower ends, being willing to give these types of outreach a chance is going to become a differentiator.

Re: Triplebyte acquired by Karat

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Post by pc86 »

IshKebab wrote: post #47
burkaman wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.linkedin.com/skill-assessments/hub/quizzes/

They're very basic tests in comparison to Triplebyte though.

Even if that's true it's sort of irrelevant if your requirements make Triplebyte's matching garbage.

Re: Triplebyte acquired by Karat

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Post by warent »

tedivm wrote: post #44
triyambakam wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Can you delete this? I don't want a conversation that I'm having to lead to someone being harassed.

It's okay, I'm not anonymous. Thank you for looking out though. I appreciate you and apologize for coming across as adversarial, the company has a special place in my heart and I'm obviously very biased. What you experienced sounds like it was pretty bad, and I hope that they have grown from it
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