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Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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Is ANY platform in a position to treat creators well? I hear nothing but complaints from everywhere. I wonder if it is possible to treat creators well…? Are creators even worth much on average considering the volume of people willing to just grind out content continuously without much regard to … themselves? It seems to be an endless search for more subscribers, more views, more patrons of some type, more questionabl…

Maybe I missed it, but Wordpress seemed to handle creators really well. I've been saying for a while that the next big thing in streaming is Wordpress but for Streamers. Something relatively easy for small streamers to set up and manage on their own, cheap enough to start small and scale up as it starts to make money, with the ability to handle large-scale streams if necessary. I don't know how you would handle provi…

Could you give an example of someone who was making significant money (preferably by YT/Twitch standards but any example is good) on WordPress?

Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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If I was worth ~100 million dollars, I would definitely quit my job to have fun with my family.

If I was worth ~100 million dollars, I would definitely quit my job.

If I was worth ~100 million dollars....

Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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I can't speak for the first two, but as for the softcore porn bit - there are a lot of very popular streamers who are just hot women that wear bathing suits or less and either do something mundane while looking hot or "exercise" or something that is also mostly just them looking hot. Maybe softcore porn is a bit much since there is no nudity, but it's close.

It’s not even close to softcore porn. I can go to any beach and see the same thing, or a nudie sauna, and that is hardly sexual. Hot is probably the right word. Well done if they make money from that I guess.

It seems like you're talking about something you've never seen. If you saw what I'm referring to outside of twitch, you'd immediately assume it was an onlyfans video or something. You can absolutely not see the same thing at a beach or a sauna, and if you did, the person would get kicked out.

I'm not commenting on whether it's good or bad, I'm just stating something that anyone who has ever been on twitch is well aware of and would never argue. It's a thing.

Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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Amazon has really done a number on what was a fun and useful platform for viewers and creators. It was totally "enshittened".

As one example, I can't even login to Twitch since a few months ago because "my browser is not supported". (EDIT to add: Tried with Firefox and Chromium, from both v3.17 and edge Alpine Linux repositories.)

I don't know what kind of fingerprinting are they doing, but it's definitely not just user agent nor IP address nor browser version. I suspect they somehow detect that I'm using Alpine Linux (it's my main OS) and don't like it, because this doesn't happen on different distros.

I think this started happening shortly after they got a massive amount of new accounts being created.

Like, my account has existed for years, has MFA enabled, and has given them money frequently. But I can't login from my main device. Alright.

Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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>Every typical user still uses the same StreamLabs widgets and alerts for years without many new ones, and most of the streaming workflow improvements are upstream in OBS itself. So what, if it works well enough, which it seems like it does? Can't we just leave things be?

It’s more than that; there is no room to innovate here for a startup. We were #2 to Streamlabs with ~40% market share by minutes watched @ Muxy in 2016-2017. However, there was no way to monetize without dark patterning viewers to subscribe to our platform when donating, which others did, but we refused to do. We have so many cool unreleased widgets for bits and streams that have been dormant because it’s not possibl…

That's cool, "monetising" usually means making the experience of viewers worse, so good on Twitch

Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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I've been a Twitch user since its first year. I have a select few streamers I watch, and I spend more time on the platform when there are new releases for games I personally like. But, I have been very in-tune with Twitch culture and I know how disorganized it is when it comes to "big" streamers. However, my issue (and also disappointment) with Twitch right now is: - Softcore porn allowed on the platform. Literally,…

5 ads every 1/2 hour? Stay away from tv you see 5 ads every 10 minutes.

Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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I don't know why you'd say that, for a lot of people, the birth of their first child changes their priorities very fundamentally, especially if they have the luxury of being able to do so. Like, for example, if they had sold their company to Amazon for a literal dump truck of money . I just calculated it, it went for about 11 tons of $100 bills (the capacity of a large dump truck is about 14 tons, apparently, 7 for s…

> for a lot of people, the birth of their first child changes their priorities CEOs are not a lot of people. By definition they are extremely few in number, and those who become CEOs of top companies have a perhaps pathological drive to get there. For someone like that, an entirely predictable event -- like the birth of a child -- is the last thing that would make them sacrifice the position they've worked so hard fo…

He’s been at twitch since 2006. How many founders stay that long? Mark Zuckerberg I guess? I just don’t think the numbers back up your premise that being a CEO of a top company requires a pathological drive to stay there until death

Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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I've been a Twitch user since its first year. I have a select few streamers I watch, and I spend more time on the platform when there are new releases for games I personally like. But, I have been very in-tune with Twitch culture and I know how disorganized it is when it comes to "big" streamers. However, my issue (and also disappointment) with Twitch right now is: - Softcore porn allowed on the platform. Literally,…

Given that you have an issue with ads, how do you respond to the fact you can pay $5/month to subscribe to a specific streamer to avoid all ads? Would you prefer if there was a platform-level subscription level which allows you to avoid all platform-driven ads across all channels, similar to YouTube Premium, for example?

Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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If I was worth ~100 million dollars, I would definitely quit my job to have fun with my family.

If I was worth ~100 million dollars, I would definitely quit my job.

If I was worth ~100 million dollars, I would definitely quit my job AND my family

Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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How? Youtube will take automatic action against peoples channels and then there will be no way to interact with a real human to resolve the situation. The whole system seems like a random black box that does not care for its users.

A channel I like is having to test various patterns of swearing and swear-bleeping to try to narrow down what exactly suddenly changed that wrecked their monetization, which had been fine for years and years. They can't just ask YouTube what they need to do to be OK again. It's really dumb. Also, creators on a platform that grew its original userbase through piracy and media re-mixes with little or no content-policin…

> Also, creators on a platform that grew its original userbase through piracy and media re-mixes with little or no content-policing now have to be extremely careful about even very clear-cut fair-use of commercial media

Monetization is a big part of this problem. It is possible for something to be fair use and commercialized, but once you've commercialized it you're fighting an uphill battle to claim fair use.

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