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Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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Post by PurpleRamen »

AccountAccount1 wrote: post #4

Honestly, it's not that surprising... from an outsider, Twitch has been incredibly mismanaged in the way that they treat their content creators. And now that Youtube is robust enough to allow streaming (also with the features that streaming has) it's catching up to them. The most curious is the alienation of creators which were raking up like 60k viewers per stream by the threat of banning. If you have ever seen one…

> And now that Youtube is robust enough to allow streaming (also with the features that streaming has) it's catching up to them.

Do you have some up-to-date numbers for this? Because YouTube has streaming since 2016, and they never caught up to twitch. Not in the pandemia, when Twitch was growing like crazy. And also not when they bought some big Streamers from Twitch. IIRC, at some point they were even worse than Facebook Gaming for some while. Though, I haven't seen the numbers for 2023 yet.

> Another shock was this new Kick platform which is managed by a creator itself, and apparently is doing quite well on the surface

Kick seems to be 99% bots. I wouldn't call that doing well.

Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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Post by jaywalk »

nagyf wrote: post #38
colpabar wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't speak for the first two, but as for the softcore porn bit - there are a lot of very popular streamers who are just hot women that wear bathing suits or less and either do something mundane while looking hot or "exercise" or something that is also mostly just them looking hot. Maybe softcore porn is a bit much since there is no nudity, but it's close.

To add to this: Some other hot women are using 3D* microphones and they do nothing but moan into the mic (like if they were having sex or similar), and making "licking noises" and other similar stuff. * Edit: no idea what are these called, but sometimes they moan and lick the left side, sometimes the right so you can hear it in your corresponding ear.

Stereo microphone is the term you're looking for.

Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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Post by ericd »

garciasn wrote: post #63
Sebb767 wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Getting into a position like this (and keeping it!) requires an extreme amount of dedication and sacrifice. People who are willing to go to such lengths are unlikely to be the kind of person to give up all that for their child. Additionally, you rarely hear the actual reason for someone quitting from a position like this; there will nearly always be a nice cover story. Being honest this time around, especially given…

Definitely not when it's "effective immediately".

The person who's stepping into his spot has been President for three years, and has been attaching his name to public communications/policy, this doesn't seem like a rushed replacement.

Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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Post by whatisthiseven »

sebzim4500 wrote: post #36
duxup wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is ANY platform in a position to treat creators well? I hear nothing but complaints from everywhere. I wonder if it is possible to treat creators well…? Are creators even worth much on average considering the volume of people willing to just grind out content continuously without much regard to … themselves? It seems to be an endless search for more subscribers, more views, more patrons of some type, more questionabl…

Youtube treats creators pretty well, from what I can tell. It's just that 'influencers' like nothing more than to complain. Admittedly, Twitch is a clusterfuck though.

That's weird, as my understanding of the YT creator community is constant strife, ever changing rules, arbitrary bans, strikes on their account for vaguely matching copyrighted work, and most recently swearing too much, or too early, in a video.

YT is not friendly to creators, for the same reason Twitch is not friendly to creators: advertisers hate what people want to watch.

Even Patreon, where people pay rather than watch ads, repeatedly runs into issues with creators because of pay schedules, amounts, percent cuts, platform features, and more.

If its someone else's platform, creators don't win.

Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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Post by yamtaddle »

izzydata wrote: post #59
sebzim4500 wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Youtube treats creators pretty well, from what I can tell. It's just that 'influencers' like nothing more than to complain. Admittedly, Twitch is a clusterfuck though.

How? Youtube will take automatic action against peoples channels and then there will be no way to interact with a real human to resolve the situation. The whole system seems like a random black box that does not care for its users.

A channel I like is having to test various patterns of swearing and swear-bleeping to try to narrow down what exactly suddenly changed that wrecked their monetization, which had been fine for years and years. They can't just ask YouTube what they need to do to be OK again. It's really dumb.

Also, creators on a platform that grew its original userbase through piracy and media re-mixes with little or no content-policing now have to be extremely careful about even very clear-cut fair-use of commercial media, or risk losing one of their copyright strikes (as in, three strikes and you're out—that is, we kill your business). It makes their videos worse—so, it's also bad for viewers—and causes them stress.

Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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Post by prox »

0000000000100 wrote: post #48

If there was one thing I wish Twitch would change, it’s the entry ads to streams. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve closed the tab while browsing for something to watch because I get an unskipable 30 second ad before I even get to see if there’s something worth watching. For reference, Twitch has invested very heavily in anti adblockers and it’s pretty difficult to sidestep the ads these days without paying $5/mon…

They don’t tell you this on the whole, but there is an adfree turbo subscription: https://www.twitch.tv/turbo

Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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Post by [deleted] »

duxup wrote: post #13
AccountAccount1 wrote: post #4

Honestly, it's not that surprising... from an outsider, Twitch has been incredibly mismanaged in the way that they treat their content creators. And now that Youtube is robust enough to allow streaming (also with the features that streaming has) it's catching up to them. The most curious is the alienation of creators which were raking up like 60k viewers per stream by the threat of banning. If you have ever seen one…

Is ANY platform in a position to treat creators well? I hear nothing but complaints from everywhere. I wonder if it is possible to treat creators well…? Are creators even worth much on average considering the volume of people willing to just grind out content continuously without much regard to … themselves? It seems to be an endless search for more subscribers, more views, more patrons of some type, more questionabl…

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Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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Post by teachrdan »

ericd wrote: post #57
Sebb767 wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Getting into a position like this (and keeping it!) requires an extreme amount of dedication and sacrifice. People who are willing to go to such lengths are unlikely to be the kind of person to give up all that for their child. Additionally, you rarely hear the actual reason for someone quitting from a position like this; there will nearly always be a nice cover story. Being honest this time around, especially given…

I don't know why you'd say that, for a lot of people, the birth of their first child changes their priorities very fundamentally, especially if they have the luxury of being able to do so. Like, for example, if they had sold their company to Amazon for a literal dump truck of money . I just calculated it, it went for about 11 tons of $100 bills (the capacity of a large dump truck is about 14 tons, apparently, 7 for s…

> for a lot of people, the birth of their first child changes their priorities

CEOs are not a lot of people. By definition they are extremely few in number, and those who become CEOs of top companies have a perhaps pathological drive to get there. For someone like that, an entirely predictable event -- like the birth of a child -- is the last thing that would make them sacrifice the position they've worked so hard for.

Now would I quit my job for $100 million? Absolutely! But maybe that just means I'm most people...

Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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Post by PurpleRamen »

elicash wrote: post #16

Am I the only one who takes it at face value that somebody would quit being a CEO because of the birth of their first child? Even if the platform has all the issues folks are saying?

Platforms always have issues, that will never change. Despite that, Twitch is doing pretty well. Most of the complaints are saying that it could be better, not that it's bad. Though, there is the problem that Amazon is juicing the platform, and that's also something that won't change. And I would say Emmett Shear generally did improve the platform over the years. So he is going on a height.
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