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Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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real innovation would have been to spin it off as a separate streaming website that allows paywalled subscription and creating an OF competitor

Amazon doesn't want to get into the adult industry.

It also doesn't not want to get into it, because it could have banned hot tub streams, but chose to quarantine them instead.

As sibling posts explained - it wants to be in a one-foot-in-one-foot-out sort of position on the question.

Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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I don't watch Twitch...but what??

I can't speak for the first two, but as for the softcore porn bit - there are a lot of very popular streamers who are just hot women that wear bathing suits or less and either do something mundane while looking hot or "exercise" or something that is also mostly just them looking hot. Maybe softcore porn is a bit much since there is no nudity, but it's close.

It’s not even close to softcore porn. I can go to any beach and see the same thing, or a nudie sauna, and that is hardly sexual.

Hot is probably the right word. Well done if they make money from that I guess.

Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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Am I the only one who takes it at face value that somebody would quit being a CEO because of the birth of their first child? Even if the platform has all the issues folks are saying?

Getting into a position like this (and keeping it!) requires an extreme amount of dedication and sacrifice. People who are willing to go to such lengths are unlikely to be the kind of person to give up all that for their child. Additionally, you rarely hear the actual reason for someone quitting from a position like this; there will nearly always be a nice cover story. Being honest this time around, especially given…

Definitely not when it's "effective immediately".

Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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Am I the only one who takes it at face value that somebody would quit being a CEO because of the birth of their first child? Even if the platform has all the issues folks are saying?

Getting into a position like this (and keeping it!) requires an extreme amount of dedication and sacrifice. People who are willing to go to such lengths are unlikely to be the kind of person to give up all that for their child. Additionally, you rarely hear the actual reason for someone quitting from a position like this; there will nearly always be a nice cover story. Being honest this time around, especially given…

I don't disagree, but quitting from a position is certainly a sacrifice.

I'm certain it happens once in a while when someone has a personal realization and decides to change their life's trajectory fundamentally. Maybe their own (role model) parents died and they discovered that time with your children cannot be substituted with gifts and money.

Now in this case it's unlikely given Twitch problems but sometimes important humans are just humans.

Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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Am I the only one who takes it at face value that somebody would quit being a CEO because of the birth of their first child? Even if the platform has all the issues folks are saying?

I've known Emmett for many years and I 100% believe it. He was working because he enjoyed it. Now he has something else to enjoy more.

Couldn't be happier for the guy!

Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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What has Twitch actually done new business-wise in the past 5-6 years? Every typical user still uses the same StreamLabs widgets and alerts for years without many new ones, and most of the streaming workflow improvements are upstream in OBS itself. I honestly pegged things like Twitch Plays Pokemon back in 2014 would be the future of Twitch, and Twitch did allow some developer tools for interactivity between players…

>Every typical user still uses the same StreamLabs widgets and alerts for years without many new ones, and most of the streaming workflow improvements are upstream in OBS itself. So what, if it works well enough, which it seems like it does? Can't we just leave things be?

It’s more than that; there is no room to innovate here for a startup. We were #2 to Streamlabs with ~40% market share by minutes watched @ Muxy in 2016-2017. However, there was no way to monetize without dark patterning viewers to subscribe to our platform when donating, which others did, but we refused to do.

We have so many cool unreleased widgets for bits and streams that have been dormant because it’s not possible to monetize them. Twitch could fix this…

Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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Honestly, it's not that surprising... from an outsider, Twitch has been incredibly mismanaged in the way that they treat their content creators. And now that Youtube is robust enough to allow streaming (also with the features that streaming has) it's catching up to them. The most curious is the alienation of creators which were raking up like 60k viewers per stream by the threat of banning. If you have ever seen one…

Is ANY platform in a position to treat creators well? I hear nothing but complaints from everywhere. I wonder if it is possible to treat creators well…? Are creators even worth much on average considering the volume of people willing to just grind out content continuously without much regard to … themselves? It seems to be an endless search for more subscribers, more views, more patrons of some type, more questionabl…

It's funny to me the "restrictions" being placed on content creators like it's a new thing. It's only new in that more people are being made aware of how there have always been rules applied to what could or could not be "aired". Yes, there were government rules enforced by the FCC and the infamous stories of getting things past the censors, but there were always deference paid to the corporate sponsors and advertisers. This isn't unique to internet streamers.

If you started out without any consideration of this, then you're just a babe in the woods type of situation, but if you thought you could do this and "disrupt", then you're just living in a delusion. You want to make money from advertisers, then you're going to play by their rules.

Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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Amazon has really done a number on what was a fun and useful platform for viewers and creators. It was totally "enshittened".

It still is fun, but the constant “our creators and viewers are the enemy of capitalization” is not a great tactic short or long term.

I agree I still enjoy catching streams I just wish Mixer or one of the other platforms had fought longer to create real competition.

You hit the nail on the head tho “our creators and viewers are the enemy of capitalization”.

I think one of the problems with our current fiscal model of "year over year growth or die" is that some products have a ceiling before the only way to squeeze more is to hurt the overall experience for users.

Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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No money no mission. If advertisers leave the ecosystem it all falls apart which is why the content controls are so strict.

Make it a monthly payment like Netflix? Streaming is streaming if you ask me.

You can subscribe to individual creators on twitch. This removes advertising from that streamers stream only.
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