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Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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Post by hangonhn »

elicash wrote: post #16

Am I the only one who takes it at face value that somebody would quit being a CEO because of the birth of their first child? Even if the platform has all the issues folks are saying?

Both can be true, especially since they don't contradict each other. When it comes to human decisions, it's usually a multitude of reasons. It could be that Twitch is in trouble and he has a child and maybe a host of other factors. I too take what he said at face value while allowing other things people have said about the platform to be true too.

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Post by whatshisface »

Sebb767 wrote: post #32
elicash wrote: post #16

Am I the only one who takes it at face value that somebody would quit being a CEO because of the birth of their first child? Even if the platform has all the issues folks are saying?

Getting into a position like this (and keeping it!) requires an extreme amount of dedication and sacrifice. People who are willing to go to such lengths are unlikely to be the kind of person to give up all that for their child. Additionally, you rarely hear the actual reason for someone quitting from a position like this; there will nearly always be a nice cover story. Being honest this time around, especially given…

They don't have to say why.

Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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Post by yamtaddle »

jeron wrote: post #10
jazzyjackson wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Moving all the thirst traps to a "hot tubs" channel was pretty innovative. https://www.pcgamer.com/twitch-addresses-hot-tub-streaming-c...

real innovation would have been to spin it off as a separate streaming website that allows paywalled subscription and creating an OF competitor

Eh—the draw of putting that content on Twitch is siphoning off part of a huge audience by sharing space on a popular non-porn platform. Separating the two would remove the reason people are streaming there instead of OF in the first place.

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Post by spyke112 »

HDThoreaun wrote: post #23
AccountAccount1 wrote: post #4

Honestly, it's not that surprising... from an outsider, Twitch has been incredibly mismanaged in the way that they treat their content creators. And now that Youtube is robust enough to allow streaming (also with the features that streaming has) it's catching up to them. The most curious is the alienation of creators which were raking up like 60k viewers per stream by the threat of banning. If you have ever seen one…

No money no mission. If advertisers leave the ecosystem it all falls apart which is why the content controls are so strict.

Make it a monthly payment like Netflix? Streaming is streaming if you ask me.

Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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Post by minimaxir »

favaq wrote: post #21
minimaxir wrote: post #2

What has Twitch actually done new business-wise in the past 5-6 years? Every typical user still uses the same StreamLabs widgets and alerts for years without many new ones, and most of the streaming workflow improvements are upstream in OBS itself. I honestly pegged things like Twitch Plays Pokemon back in 2014 would be the future of Twitch, and Twitch did allow some developer tools for interactivity between players…

>Every typical user still uses the same StreamLabs widgets and alerts for years without many new ones, and most of the streaming workflow improvements are upstream in OBS itself. So what, if it works well enough, which it seems like it does? Can't we just leave things be?

It works, but could be a lot lot better and is not very user friendly, which would benefit Twitch's two-sided market.

Unfortunately Twitch's current API is too locked-down/fussy to build a feasible alternative.

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Post by wsatb »

AccountAccount1 wrote: post #4

Honestly, it's not that surprising... from an outsider, Twitch has been incredibly mismanaged in the way that they treat their content creators. And now that Youtube is robust enough to allow streaming (also with the features that streaming has) it's catching up to them. The most curious is the alienation of creators which were raking up like 60k viewers per stream by the threat of banning. If you have ever seen one…

It seems all YouTube has really done is offer massive contracts to Twitch streamers to poach them. It’s still a terrible streaming platform. Unless you already have a well established audience, you’re not going anywhere there.

As for Kick, that is not a legitimate business. One, they’ve ripped off the entire UI from Twitch. Two, the anything goes attitude is not going to fly if they ever get real advertisers.

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Post by 0000000000100 »

If there was one thing I wish Twitch would change, it’s the entry ads to streams. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve closed the tab while browsing for something to watch because I get an unskipable 30 second ad before I even get to see if there’s something worth watching.

For reference, Twitch has invested very heavily in anti adblockers and it’s pretty difficult to sidestep the ads these days without paying $5/month for a subscription.

Compare this to streaming on YouTube, which has a (much) worse UI, but tolerates ad blockers and lets you watch the parts of the steam you missed. I’m not optimistic that Twitch will be able to survive if YouTube manages to get their shit together and make a half decent UI.

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Post by Eumenes »

minimaxir wrote: post #2

What has Twitch actually done new business-wise in the past 5-6 years? Every typical user still uses the same StreamLabs widgets and alerts for years without many new ones, and most of the streaming workflow improvements are upstream in OBS itself. I honestly pegged things like Twitch Plays Pokemon back in 2014 would be the future of Twitch, and Twitch did allow some developer tools for interactivity between players…

Its softcore porn and weird anime/furry stuff for socially awkward teenagers
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