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Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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Post by favaq »

minimaxir wrote: post #2

What has Twitch actually done new business-wise in the past 5-6 years? Every typical user still uses the same StreamLabs widgets and alerts for years without many new ones, and most of the streaming workflow improvements are upstream in OBS itself. I honestly pegged things like Twitch Plays Pokemon back in 2014 would be the future of Twitch, and Twitch did allow some developer tools for interactivity between players…

>Every typical user still uses the same StreamLabs widgets and alerts for years without many new ones, and most of the streaming workflow improvements are upstream in OBS itself.

So what, if it works well enough, which it seems like it does? Can't we just leave things be?

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Post by unity1001 »

Avicebron wrote: post #11
AccountAccount1 wrote: post #4

Honestly, it's not that surprising... from an outsider, Twitch has been incredibly mismanaged in the way that they treat their content creators. And now that Youtube is robust enough to allow streaming (also with the features that streaming has) it's catching up to them. The most curious is the alienation of creators which were raking up like 60k viewers per stream by the threat of banning. If you have ever seen one…

I think that part of what limits what creators can do on twitch comes down to what the advertisers are willing to put up with, it's likely more that advertisers are leaning on twitch who are then leaning on creators, vs just twitch leaning on creators. As for kick, they seem to be actively ignoring/rejecting these limitations (potentially because they at least partly externally funded by stake (online gambling platfo…

> what creators can do on twitch comes down to what the advertisers are willing to put up with

Eh. Then those advertisers will have to create the content from now on...

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Post by HDThoreaun »

AccountAccount1 wrote: post #4

Honestly, it's not that surprising... from an outsider, Twitch has been incredibly mismanaged in the way that they treat their content creators. And now that Youtube is robust enough to allow streaming (also with the features that streaming has) it's catching up to them. The most curious is the alienation of creators which were raking up like 60k viewers per stream by the threat of banning. If you have ever seen one…

No money no mission. If advertisers leave the ecosystem it all falls apart which is why the content controls are so strict.

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Post by HDThoreaun »

weego wrote: post #19
waboremo wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Guaranteed ads, amazon affiliate links in bio, integrate amazon luna more, and change revenue splits.

The guaranteed 30 second as on stream load was the final straw for me. I used to wander around the music streamers channel but ended up with as much as time viewed as the actual streams.

ad block works on twitch. Even the DNS only blockers that you can get for iOS.

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AccountAccount1 wrote: post #4

Honestly, it's not that surprising... from an outsider, Twitch has been incredibly mismanaged in the way that they treat their content creators. And now that Youtube is robust enough to allow streaming (also with the features that streaming has) it's catching up to them. The most curious is the alienation of creators which were raking up like 60k viewers per stream by the threat of banning. If you have ever seen one…

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Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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Post by GenerocUsername »

elicash wrote: post #16

Am I the only one who takes it at face value that somebody would quit being a CEO because of the birth of their first child? Even if the platform has all the issues folks are saying?

As the father of an 11 month old, yeah, I don't see how many human could be a CEO and an involved parent.

Now if twitch were a perfect turnkey operation the CEO could step away for a few weeks here and there... But also maybe that's just not realistic

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Post by RandallBrown »

elicash wrote: post #16

Am I the only one who takes it at face value that somebody would quit being a CEO because of the birth of their first child? Even if the platform has all the issues folks are saying?

If I was worth ~100 million dollars, I would definitely quit my job to have fun with my family.

Re: Twitch CEO Emmett Shear is resigning

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Post by Avicebron »

arkitaip wrote: post #6
minimaxir wrote: post #2

What has Twitch actually done new business-wise in the past 5-6 years? Every typical user still uses the same StreamLabs widgets and alerts for years without many new ones, and most of the streaming workflow improvements are upstream in OBS itself. I honestly pegged things like Twitch Plays Pokemon back in 2014 would be the future of Twitch, and Twitch did allow some developer tools for interactivity between players…

Most of the innovation is driven by the streamers and target viewers anyways. Just check out the events that people like Ibai are doing - bigger and more fun than anything Twitch has done.

Which is probably part of the charm of twitch and part of the reason it stays relevant and people often complain that Youtube's implementation is limited (mostly because of how the chat communities work).

I find it difficult (outside of adding more dev tools and allowing for things like twitch plays pokemon as someone mentioned earlier in this thread) that a corporate implementation of a new "thing" will be as successful, partly because of the vicious backlash against whatever corporate sanitation measures would have to be implemented just to allow it on the platform.

I think there's a fundamental disconnect in what is most fun and engaging about watching and commenting in chats on twitch and what twitch as a company would allow if they tried to invasively step in an manage the product.

A good example of this was a few years ago, there was almost universally panned attempt to create some form of "moderation council" which turned out to be absurdly tone deaf and I haven't heard anything since.

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Post by unethical_ban »

jeron wrote: post #10
jazzyjackson wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Moving all the thirst traps to a "hot tubs" channel was pretty innovative. https://www.pcgamer.com/twitch-addresses-hot-tub-streaming-c...

real innovation would have been to spin it off as a separate streaming website that allows paywalled subscription and creating an OF competitor

Horrible idea!

By keeping softcore erotica nudge-nudge on their video game streaming site, they allow viewers to tell their parents and girlfriends that they're watching games and chat. Spinning it off would kill the market for that content without doing anything for the video game side of the house.

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