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Google discontinues Google Glass for enterprise

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Re: Google discontinues Google Glass for enterprise

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Post by perceptronas »

I've tried consumer Google Glasses once they were released. I was truly impressed. If I were to guess — camera & privacy concerns killed them.

I see others say that its just another product Google killed. I have to disagree, >10 years is quite a long time to see if product works or not. This time its a bit different.

Google is a cool company. Maybe not as cool as before, but certainly an order of magnitude better than Microsoft. I wish them all the best and hope they can come up with new exciting stuff

Re: Google discontinues Google Glass for enterprise

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Post by thesuperbigfrog »

sofixa wrote: post #156
thesuperbigfrog wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> Stadia failed as a business, not as a product or technical solution. Stadia failed as a business because it failed to get adoption by developers and gamers / users. It failed to get adoption by developers and gamers because Google has a reputation for killing things. Google has a reputation for killing things because it's leadership does not have a vision outside of advertising and its internal culture does not re…

> Stadia failed as a business because it failed to get adoption by developers and gamers / users. Nonsense. It failed to attract developers because it was an unsure new platform so of course most of them wouldn't spend hours to develop for it. They were always going to need convincing (with money of course), which took Google too long, but around a year or so in there were multiple heavy hitters in the form of Red De…

>> For gamers, fear of Google shutting it down played a part, of course. But so did all the extremely negative coverage, from everywhere, that Stadia is dead on arrival which only reinforced that fear. Had Google actually told everyone their shutdown plan (reimburse everyone for all games), a lot of gamers would have overcome those fears.

It is a self-reinforcing vicious cycle. Stadia was yet another demonstration of how Google has developed its current reputation.

>> Technically, the platform was amazing. To this day the best UX by far of out cloud gaming platforms.

That's what is so sad. Google's tech is amazingly good, but their user support and reputation are terribly bad. Bad enough that, in many cases, it breaks the business.

Re: Google discontinues Google Glass for enterprise

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Post by MonkeyMalarky »

sam_goody wrote: post #36

I, for one, am happy that this failed for Google, and will be even happier if it would fail for Meta. Whenever this tech matures (and it will eventually), I rather it not be done by the company whose only goal is to capture even more data about you (and whose OS will be full of other, 3rd party, spyware). If done by a startup, there is a chance, however tiny, that they can create enough market that a non spyware vers…

The sad thing is this isn't even that hot of take given what happened with Facebook and the genocide of Rohingya Muslims in Myanmar...

Re: Google discontinues Google Glass for enterprise

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Post by charcircuit »

ozten wrote: post #184

The physics behind Glasses style augmented reality are impossible (or at least 50 years away), so the industry is moving towards MR mixed reality. Bigscreen VR's recent glasses show where things are headed - Micro OLED displays and smaller form factor. Speculation: Google is consolidating talent and doubling down on an internal VR/MR headset and metaverse to compete with Apple. It will be tethered to a "Puck" that ru…

I'm sorry, but glasses style augmented reality is already possible. 50 years is even too long of a time span for when AR glasses are attractive enough to the general public enough to reach >1B users.

Re: Google discontinues Google Glass for enterprise

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Post by skeletal88 »

phpisthebest wrote: post #185
toyg wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think Netflix has a particular problem; maintaining series for more than a couple of seasons has always been hard in broadcasting. It's easier to spot now because people have complete visibility: instead of caring about a couple of series in key time slots, they can know care about all series, so it's more noticeable that most series die a sad death. Addressing off-ramps in a nicer way would be an innovation.…

2 "Seasons" of a netflix show is not even 1 season of broadcast... Most Broadcast shows run 20-24 Episodes per Season. Netflix is 10 at the most, some 6 episodes. per "season" That is part of their problem, and why the cancellations feel even more abrupt and why people do not want to invest time in them. it is hard to tell a compelling story in 6 episodes of TV. So if a netflix series get 2 seasons, 12 Episode. it is…

Depends on the country, it is totally ok for some british detective/crime series to have 6 episode seasons, because each episode is an hour or 1,5 long, they are not filled with pointless stuff to make them longer, etc.

I recommend Line of duty.

Re: Google discontinues Google Glass for enterprise

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Post by charcircuit »

lynx23 wrote: post #59

Google Glass, Google Car, Google Plus... Its always the same pattern. A lot of pre-release advertisment, followed by a release of a beta version and another press release declaring the end of the product. At this point, I wouldn't adopt any Google offering because I sort of expect by default it will go away in 6 months or 12.

This device had a 4 years of updates which is more than what a Pixel phone would get.

Re: Google discontinues Google Glass for enterprise

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Post by charcircuit »

devrand wrote: post #90
lynx23 wrote: post #59

Google Glass, Google Car, Google Plus... Its always the same pattern. A lot of pre-release advertisment, followed by a release of a beta version and another press release declaring the end of the product. At this point, I wouldn't adopt any Google offering because I sort of expect by default it will go away in 6 months or 12.

Isn’t that exactly not the case here? This product existed for over a decade.

The Glass Enterprise Edition 2 came out in 2019.

Re: Google discontinues Google Glass for enterprise

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Post by amf12 »

thesuperbigfrog wrote: post #112
danpalmer wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stadia failed as a business, not as a product or technical solution. I work on Google Play, we've been going for a decade, no sign of stopping now. Much of what I and the many people around me do is maintenance – making things go faster, making things error less, etc. Some of that is done with new features, some is transparent to users (or app developers). I don't see this culture that HN seems so convinced about. I…

>> Stadia failed as a business, not as a product or technical solution. Stadia failed as a business because it failed to get adoption by developers and gamers / users. It failed to get adoption by developers and gamers because Google has a reputation for killing things. Google has a reputation for killing things because it's leadership does not have a vision outside of advertising and its internal culture does not re…

> It has become a meme: https://killedbygoogle.com/

That is exactly what it is: a meme. Look at most products / services / hardware on there. A lot of entires are things that have newer version, were renamed or merged with other services / products, or features included in core products.

Some were discontinued, but they didn't have enough use. Only a few user loved products were discontinued: Inbox, Reader, etc.

Re: Google discontinues Google Glass for enterprise

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Post by stonogo »

rvnx wrote: post #153
eitally wrote: post #145

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The problem honestly has nothing to do with SWE/PM incentives. The problem here, as noted, isn't going from 0->1. The problem is business strategy and leadership, and the ability for multiple stakeholders to rally around a xfn initiative to ensure it receives dedicated care & feeding to take it from 1->100. When you step outside the eng bubble, the incentives problems absolutely apply when discussing issues Google ha…

Another issue is about the clients. In the AR-space, "Enterprise customers" is the secret code to say "military clients". If Google has the policy to not work with the DoD, then it makes its options very limited (Magic Leap doesn't have such restrictions as far as I know). The same way they likely didn't appreciate when they were associated with Boston Dynamics. So, if you can't sell your product for its main useful…

Google has no such policy. Google Workspaces has active DOD contracts (and DOD is featured as a case study on their site) and active pursuits in other spaces, employee concerns very much notwithstanding.

Re: Google discontinues Google Glass for enterprise

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Post by sleepytimetea »

deelowe wrote: post #132
jpm_sd wrote: post #93

Glass just wasn't very good. Tiny low resolution display, poor quality camera, uncomfortable to wear, terrible battery life. Pivoting to "for Enterprise" was just a half-assed attempt to make back some of the $$$ wasted on development without putting much more effort into R&D. Not a surprise that adoption was limited. (I worked at X 2013-2015.)

There was a lot of really impressive tech in glass. Especially for 10 years ago. I have no doubt that with continued focus and funding, they could have build something truly impressive. Unfortunately, glass was a pet project of Sergey's and he decided to exit stage left fairly quickly once some of his unsavory behaviors started becoming known publicly. This was just a few months after the launch. Once he was no longe…

Unsavory behaviors with Google Glasses ?
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