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Re: Google discontinues Google Glass for enterprise

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Post by papito »

swatcoder wrote: post #164
throwaw12 wrote: post #25

At this point, I think issue is not about products Google build, it is about how Google put their incentives in place. - Build new shiny thing -> promoted - Support shiny thing -> it's not difficult, everyone can do it This type of culture is influencing future direction of Google products, they put together awesome team, solve problem and get from 0 to 1, then team moves on, others don't have incentive to make 1 to…

Far from being different than startups, Google’s product development ecosystem actually mirrors the VC/startup ecosystem quite well. The idea behind both is that you pursue a lot of varied opportunities simultaneously and then cull the ones that aren’t delivering dramatically outsized success. A startups founding team , like a Google product team , may be committed to their product and want to pivot and keep taking f…

Google refuses to see through products that do not go supernova like their search did back in the day.

Search/ads give them a business with Pablo Escobar margins. They will never go "legit" with a regular product, they will never have something close to their main cash cow, so why not just stop making DOA products and stick to what they actually want to do?

That will save people a lot of time and money.

Re: Google discontinues Google Glass for enterprise

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Post by AlbertCory »

bla3 wrote: post #79
throwaw12 wrote: post #25

At this point, I think issue is not about products Google build, it is about how Google put their incentives in place. - Build new shiny thing -> promoted - Support shiny thing -> it's not difficult, everyone can do it This type of culture is influencing future direction of Google products, they put together awesome team, solve problem and get from 0 to 1, then team moves on, others don't have incentive to make 1 to…

I think this is both obsolete and subtly wrong. Big corps want products with global impact. When a product is new, it's evaluated for its potential. When it's been around for a while, it's evaluated on how well its growth is matching the estimated impact. Eventually, growth has stopped. If the product lands at an active base of a billion users or so, it's a success and people definitely can make a career out of maint…

This sounds like a B-school idea, not one based on observed reality.

> promotions to higher levels need to see at least some realized growth and not just getting v0 out these days as far as I know

I don't think that's very far.

Re: Google discontinues Google Glass for enterprise

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Post by bcrosby95 »

danpalmer wrote: post #105
KptMarchewa wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because, especially now, we can see lack of it drastically impacting new Google products like Stadia. No one can trust Google to maintain their products at all.

Stadia failed as a business, not as a product or technical solution. I work on Google Play, we've been going for a decade, no sign of stopping now. Much of what I and the many people around me do is maintenance – making things go faster, making things error less, etc. Some of that is done with new features, some is transparent to users (or app developers). I don't see this culture that HN seems so convinced about. I…

In comparison, Microsoft lost billions to get into the console market. I don't see the same drive or commitment from Google. If they had the same red ring of death problem the first xbox had, Google would have cut their losses and jumped ship.

Re: Google discontinues Google Glass for enterprise

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Post by ozten »

The physics behind Glasses style augmented reality are impossible (or at least 50 years away), so the industry is moving towards MR mixed reality. Bigscreen VR's recent glasses show where things are headed - Micro OLED displays and smaller form factor.

Speculation: Google is consolidating talent and doubling down on an internal VR/MR headset and metaverse to compete with Apple. It will be tethered to a "Puck" that runs android and clips to your belt or is in your pocket. It will be an important moonshot for AI, metaverse, and virtual Office.

YouTuber Sadley It's Bradley is a great follow for Optics and inside baseball of this space.

Re: Google discontinues Google Glass for enterprise

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Post by phpisthebest »

toyg wrote: post #154
phpisthebest wrote: post #152

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google will never get a new service to a billion users right now They have the netflix problem (or does nexflix have the Google problem) they have killed off soo many projects that no one want to invest their time into new ones unless they reach the multi-year stage, and they can not reach the multi-year stage unless they get millions of users... It is a catch 22, and neither company seems to want to address or even…

I don't think Netflix has a particular problem; maintaining series for more than a couple of seasons has always been hard in broadcasting. It's easier to spot now because people have complete visibility: instead of caring about a couple of series in key time slots, they can know care about all series, so it's more noticeable that most series die a sad death. Addressing off-ramps in a nicer way would be an innovation.…

2 "Seasons" of a netflix show is not even 1 season of broadcast... Most Broadcast shows run 20-24 Episodes per Season. Netflix is 10 at the most, some 6 episodes. per "season"

That is part of their problem, and why the cancellations feel even more abrupt and why people do not want to invest time in them. it is hard to tell a compelling story in 6 episodes of TV. So if a netflix series get 2 seasons, 12 Episode. it is just starting... even though to netflix thinks it should have a captive audience. that would just be the midseason of a Broadcast show

Most of the popular shows on broadcast would never had made it to be popular under the netflix model of 1000 shows @ 6 episodes...

Re: Google discontinues Google Glass for enterprise

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Post by kajecounterhack »

AlbertCory wrote: post #182
bla3 wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this is both obsolete and subtly wrong. Big corps want products with global impact. When a product is new, it's evaluated for its potential. When it's been around for a while, it's evaluated on how well its growth is matching the estimated impact. Eventually, growth has stopped. If the product lands at an active base of a billion users or so, it's a success and people definitely can make a career out of maint…

This sounds like a B-school idea, not one based on observed reality. > promotions to higher levels need to see at least some realized growth and not just getting v0 out these days as far as I know I don't think that's very far.

Yeah, when your cycles are 6 months long that’s about as long as you need to maintain anything, if that. Even 1 quarter might be enough. The effort to promote “Landings not launches” was not particularly successful :/

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Post by kajecounterhack »

danpalmer wrote: post #92
largepeepee wrote: post #83

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Exactly why google sucks at it. You get promoted for launching hot new products, quickly scaling it or fixing obviously broken ones. The boring grind in-between them is much harder to show value so few teams are motivated to work on it.

I think you've missed my point. As you break down "the grind", it breaks down into projects like "fix this bug" or "speed up that API", and those are impactful and can lead to promotion. Sure, no director is going to be promoted to VP for fixing a bug, but it's useful stuff for a new grad to have completed and would feed into their promotion. If there is "grind" that is truly not impactful, then why is it being done?…

That’s problem: there is impact, but it is not recognized well. For promos higher than L4 you need bigger projects. Stringing together a bunch of medium impact bug fixes won’t get it done even if the net effect is very high impact. You only get credit for something you measure and if the quantity is big enough.

Re: Google discontinues Google Glass for enterprise

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Post by falcor84 »

phpisthebest wrote: post #152
bla3 wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this is both obsolete and subtly wrong. Big corps want products with global impact. When a product is new, it's evaluated for its potential. When it's been around for a while, it's evaluated on how well its growth is matching the estimated impact. Eventually, growth has stopped. If the product lands at an active base of a billion users or so, it's a success and people definitely can make a career out of maint…

google will never get a new service to a billion users right now They have the netflix problem (or does nexflix have the Google problem) they have killed off soo many projects that no one want to invest their time into new ones unless they reach the multi-year stage, and they can not reach the multi-year stage unless they get millions of users... It is a catch 22, and neither company seems to want to address or even…

Indeed. I got so disappointed with their cancellation of The OA that at this stage I'm pretty unwilling to start watching a new niche show unless it's already completed its full arc (or was defined from the start as a "limited series").
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