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Docker is deleting Open Source organisations - what you need to know

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Re: Docker is deleting Open Source organisations - what you need to know

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Microsoft’s Azure Container Registry now has a check box feature to “vendor” external container images. This takes more space obviously but will protect systems from critical base images suddenly disappearing or becoming rate-limited.

Re: Docker is deleting Open Source organisations - what you need to know

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That's why better to have NetBSD + pkgsrc combo for servers.

You misspelled Nixpkgs ;-) I'm kidding, of course, but IIRC pkgsrc (and alikes, such as APT) has a number of limitations, for example a very limited ability to have multiple versions of the same package installed, making it less than optimal replacement. (I believe a lot of people depend on ability to spin up a new version while the old is running, then do the cutover and shut down the old one after it's not is use.)

pkgsrc allows installation of multiple versions of same package ;)

Re: Docker is deleting Open Source organisations - what you need to know

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That's why better to have NetBSD + pkgsrc combo for servers.

You misspelled Nixpkgs ;-) I'm kidding, of course, but IIRC pkgsrc (and alikes, such as APT) has a number of limitations, for example a very limited ability to have multiple versions of the same package installed, making it less than optimal replacement. (I believe a lot of people depend on ability to spin up a new version while the old is running, then do the cutover and shut down the old one after it's not is use.)

Also it has unprivileged builds, installations, packages rooted anywhere in filesystem, completely self-contained dependencies.

Re: Docker is deleting Open Source organisations - what you need to know

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The other day some one mentioned any of these surveys consistently have about a 5% troll rate. The 77% belief in angels is bizarre though. Like I believe in the possibility of aliens, the universe is quite large. Although I think all spacecraft sightings are almost certainly just mundane stuff from spy planes to weather balloons, etc. I even believe in the possibility of ghosts being real, more likely some strange ph…

if you buy into god, angels are on par with aliens, possibly even more probably present.

Indeed. According to [1], it would appear 58% of the US officially believes in angels by creed (Protestant, Catholic, Mormon, Orthodox, Jewish, or Muslim). Only 11% are atheist or agnostic, and there's a 30% group that's religious but "unaffiliated" or "other". I totally buy that two thirds of "religious but unaffiliated or other" would believe in angels.

The difference here is that to the religious mind, angels are credible in a way that UFOs, ghosts, and magic are not. (The irreligious mind probably finds them all equally credible, hence the disconnect.)

Put another way, it would not surprise me that someone who was "religious but not affiliated" might have a high regard for the Bible. Angels figure prominently in the Bible, and hence fall in that bucket.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreligion_in_the_United_State...

Re: Docker is deleting Open Source organisations - what you need to know

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There are techniques to compress and dedup redundancies... I doubt it is real 100gbs on their disks...

Even so...storage is not free. Looking at the rates of enterprise storage costs compared to what Google or Apple charges consumers - I was surprised by how subsidized people's photo libraries are.

I just compared the price of 2TB on backblaze B2 and Google Drive, they were roughly the same price. Google doesn't charge for bandwidth, but it's also against the ToS to do anything that would result in lots of downloads anyway.

Google also charges a flat rate for 2TB with the next lowest plan being 200GB. So the majority of users are paying for 2TB but not using anything close to that much. I suspect consumer storage is also much easier to offload to hard drives and tape backups while files on S3/B2 would mostly require SSDs with some probably being stored in ram.

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Do you also mean things like Uber? with double digit $B lost with no road to be profitable? I agree.

And Lyft... and Doordash... and GrubHub... Pretty much the entire "gig economy" is full of hot air and survives on regular influxes of VC money despite massive losses every year. The business model doesn't frickin work. The hope from investors was that they would be investing into what would ultimately become a monopoly that could extract rents to repay them (not very competitive market of them, but that's tipping th…

Nationalize it? No way. Besides I like rich investors ponying up money so my ride/food is more convenient and cheaper! It won’t last, but then what does?

Re: Docker is deleting Open Source organisations - what you need to know

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You misspelled Nixpkgs ;-) I'm kidding, of course, but IIRC pkgsrc (and alikes, such as APT) has a number of limitations, for example a very limited ability to have multiple versions of the same package installed, making it less than optimal replacement. (I believe a lot of people depend on ability to spin up a new version while the old is running, then do the cutover and shut down the old one after it's not is use.)

> APT ... has a number of limitations ...and crucial features, like having security fixes backported.

What you're alluding to is an Ubuntu decision about what goes into their repos, and has nothing to do with apt itself.

Re: Docker is deleting Open Source organisations - what you need to know

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Maybe the process of rerunning upstream Dockerfiles in an attempt to recover lost images and then, in many cases, getting back substantially different images will help illustrate to more teams the difference between what Docker itself achieves (easily distributable disk images, which are very useful) and reproducibility.

(Hopefully most of those differences end up being unimportant and little to no tweaks to the tools using those images is required, though.)

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> If those images disappear, we lose the ability to release and that's not acceptable. This shines light on why it is so risky (from both availability and security perspectives) to be dependent on any third party for the build pipeline of a product. I have always insisted that all dependencies must be pulled from a local source even if the ultimate origin is upstream. I am continuously surprised how many groups simpl…

Be sure to archive your development tools as well, just in case that rug gets pulled. You don't want to be in the position that you need v3.1415927 of FooWare X++ because version 4 dropped support for BazQuux™, only to find that it's no longer downloadable at any price.

I do not know if Nix will be the answer, but I really hope it or a successor drags us to fully explicit and reproducible builds.

Re: Docker is deleting Open Source organisations - what you need to know

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It's not just people suffering from psychosis who do that. "29% believe aliens exist and 21% believe a UFO crashed at Roswell in 1947. [...] 5% of respondents believe that Paul McCartney died and was secretly replaced in the Beatles in 1966, and just 4% believe shape-shifting reptilian people control our world by taking on human form and gaining power. 7% of voters think the moon landing was fake." -- https://www.pub…

The other day some one mentioned any of these surveys consistently have about a 5% troll rate. The 77% belief in angels is bizarre though. Like I believe in the possibility of aliens, the universe is quite large. Although I think all spacecraft sightings are almost certainly just mundane stuff from spy planes to weather balloons, etc. I even believe in the possibility of ghosts being real, more likely some strange ph…

I would be very interested to see a citation on the troll rate.
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