IPFS or Torrents would be ideal way to host and distribute docker images as every layer is content addressable therefore read-only. I don't mind to seed any public images I keep running on my server.
Docker is deleting Open Source organisations - what you need to know
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#602Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If those images disappear, we lose the ability to release and that's not acceptable. This shines light on why it is so risky (from both availability and security perspectives) to be dependent on any third party for the build pipeline of a product. I have always insisted that all dependencies must be pulled from a local source even if the ultimate origin is upstream. I am continuously surprised how many groups simpl…
We can't go NIH for everything. If we do that we're back to baremetal in our own datacenters and that's expensive and (comparatively) low velocity. We have to pick and choose our dependencies and take the trade off of risk for velocity. This is the tradeoff we made with the move to cloud. We run our workloads on AWS, GCP or Azure, use DataDog or New Relic for monitoring, use Github or GitLab for repos and pipelines,…
"Free service which requires $$ to maintain" and "low risk" are not compatible.
We moved to cloud as well, and we use AWS ECR for caching. We have a script for "docker login to ECR" and a list of images to auto-mirror periodically. There is a bit of friction when adding new, never-seen-before image, but in general this does not slow developers much. And we never hit any rate-limits, too!
We pay for those ECR accesses, so I am pretty confident they are not going to go away. Unlike free docker images.
Re: Docker is deleting Open Source organisations - what you need to know
#603It was sad to see people defending Docker Desktop changing from free to paid licenses. Now Docker is charging for even more things that used to be free. The defenders are reaping what they have sown. Next time a company starts to charge for things that used to be free, remember not to encourage it, because that will only make it happen more. People don't like this and many of them are not going to trust Docker in the…
Nothing a company does is free to them. To expect them to provide a free service at all, let alone one with high costs associated with it, is not reasonable. They don't owe the world free service, same for any other company.
If a company offers something for free, it's likely part of their business plan. However, if they start charging for that feature, users may feel uneasy. Digital Ocean offers a container repo for $5/month, so users may be upset about the perceived mismatch between price and features. Users not paying signals that the company has failed in its business strategy. Additionally, the repo hosting service has weak vendor lock-in, making it easy for users to switch providers. Businesses must be mindful of user feedback and work hard to retain customer loyalty in a competitive market.
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#604The OP goes through a lot of trouble to obscure they are asking for $35 a month, which honestly I think most people can afford, even if its open source software they develop only out of kindness. So I'm not really buying that argument. That said I don't really want to reward Docker for writing themselves in as the distribution hub for all things docker and then more or less extorting money from people. I think the so…
> I don't really want to reward Docker for writing themselves in as the distribution hub for all things docker and then more or less extorting money from people. I finally bit the bullet and paid for YouTube Premium. The ad "experience" on YouTube has become so abysmal and unblockable, that to use it at all really forces you into it. I had a hard time expressing why this was so aggravating -- considering that I see l…
I just ignore the ads on youtube. I don't own any animals so the pet food ads are a miss. I don't take any medicines so I'm not buying those either. I work remotely so I'm not going to buy a new car. I already have a VPN so those are all pointless also. I think that is all they try to advertise to me.
Oh yeah! I will never play Rage Shadow Legends in this life or the next. Give it up!
Re: Docker is deleting Open Source organisations - what you need to know
#605Does anybody know whether there could be something like an open/libre container registry? Maybe the cloud native foundation or the linux foundation could provide something like this to prevent vendor lock-ins? I was coincidentially trying out harbor again over the last days, and it seems nice as a managed or self-hosted alternative. [1] after some discussions we probably gonna go with that, because we want to prevent…
It's all open source software. Stupidly simple and easy to host. It's a low value commodity thing without mucb value that anyone can trivially self host. All you need is a docker capable machine (any linux machine basically) and some disk space to host the images. And a bit of operational stuff like monitoring, backups, etc. So there's an argument to be made for using something that's there, convenient, and available but not too costly. Which until recently was dockerhub. But apparently they are happy to self destruct and leave that to others.
They should take a good look at Github. If only for the simple reason that it's a natural successor to what they are offering (a free hub to host software for the world). Github actually has a container registry (see above for why). And of course the vast majority of software projects already uses them for storing their source files. And they have github actions for building the docker images from those source files. Unlike dockerhub, it's a complete and fully integrated solution. And they are being very clever about their pricing. Which is mostly free and subsidized by paid features relevant to those who get the most value out of them.
I like free stuff of course. But I should point out that I was actually a paying Github user before they changed their pricing to be essentially free (for small companies and teams). I love that of course but I was paying for that before and I think they were worth the money. And yes, it was my call and I made that call at the time.
Also worth pointing out that Github actions builds on top of the whole docker eco system. It's a valuable service that is built on top of Docker. Hosting the docker images is the least valuable thing. And it's the only thing dockerhub was ever good for. Not anymore apparently. Unlike dockerhub, Github figured out how to create value here.
Re: Docker is deleting Open Source organisations - what you need to know
#606The OP goes through a lot of trouble to obscure they are asking for $35 a month, which honestly I think most people can afford, even if its open source software they develop only out of kindness. So I'm not really buying that argument. That said I don't really want to reward Docker for writing themselves in as the distribution hub for all things docker and then more or less extorting money from people. I think the so…
Ehh. How much money should I spend on my hobbies, 35$ isn't a lot, but I'd rather not waste it. Plus instead of just grabbing the image I come up with to do x or y, you'll have to implement it yourself. Duplicate this hundreds or thousands of times.
I would spend $35/m on a hobby - but not on Docker. I wouldn't even spend $5 to host on my own registry. I think a dockerfile and a brew formula is all you'd get out of me.
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#607Could IPFS possibly be a good distributed (and free?) storage backing for whatever replaces DockerHub for Open Source, as opposed to using something like GitHub? We'd still need a registry for mapping the image name to CID, along with users/teams/etc., but that simple database should be much cheaper to run than actually handling the actual storage of images and the bandwidth for downloading images.
IPFS is the same free that Docker provides. Someone, somewhere is paying for the storage and network. The public IPFS would not likely support the bandwidth, volume, and most CSOs.
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#608Earlier quoted context omitted.
This whole thing is so weird. Why do so many organizations depend on the internet to function? It wasn't too long ago that it was standard practice to vendor your dependencies; that is, dump your dependencies into a vendor/ directory and keep that directory updated and backed up. But now, you all think it's 100% acceptable to just throw your hands up if github is down, or a maven repository is down, or docker hub mak…
There are some places that still work the old way, such as where I work - and we're finding we're increasingly out-of-touch with younger developers who grew up in a connected world. We had a recent college grad engineer (developer) who didn't work out as a hire. Some examples of the disconnect: Try as I might, I couldn't get him to understand the difference between "git" the tool and "Github" the website. He kept mak…
Oh dear, sounds like a tricky one, but I'm not sure that the "cultural" difference is what really mattered: the question is, did he have a willingness to understand where his worldview was falling short; to see that his limited experience of the world and college education was only a tiny subset of human experience and technical practices; to actively engage with those differences and continue learning? Unfortunately over the years I've also had some bad experiences with recent grads and the biggest problems usually boiled down to arrogance rather than ignorance... e.g. I can sort-of understand somewhere along the line that someone could have mistakenly learned that this new thing called "unicode" was invented for unix machines (after all, the names sort of sound similar) and that therefore we have absolutely no business trying to use it on a Windows system. But to then absolutely insist until you are blue in the face that you must be right about this because you learned it in college and everyone else in the team is just wrong, no matter what evidence is produced... well that is a difficult situation that I have personally encountered.
Re: Docker is deleting Open Source organisations - what you need to know
#609Gitea has support for packages, so if you don't want to use GitHub or something similar, you could simply self-host your packages.
Then you have to pay for distribution, which is what people are using Docker Hub to avoid (grift off of?)
Re: Docker is deleting Open Source organisations - what you need to know
#610Earlier quoted context omitted.
Thank you if you can share this prompt.
Literally just ask it to do it. I've been asking ChatGPT just now to write me a bunch of bash scripts I've procrastinated doing. Holy crap that thing is pretty awesome!
ChatGPT has learned no less than 100000 snippets about `rm -r *`, and how to trick people into accidentally using it.