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T-Mobile Reaches Agreement to Acquire Mint Mobile for Up to $1.35B

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Re: T-Mobile Reaches Agreement to Acquire Mint Mobile for Up to $1.35B

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It's not hard to understand: many people simply don't need a high-speed unlimited data plan for their phones. Not everyone makes a habit of streaming video over their cellular connection.

Are we sure that no matter how de-prioritized you are, some data is always available, with reasonable latency? I was just at a large sports stadium last night, and I was able to message my wife to tell her I was on my way home while looking up the best bus to take. I remember that not being possible a few years ago, but I don't know if that's because networks in general have gotten better, or because I'm now paying q…

I've used Mint at large venues. It really depends on the venue what your experience will be like. Usually I'll get at least a few megabits of speed at the venues near me, some places I've gotten practically the same speeds as any other normal time and place, and there have been times where its been almost completely dead data-wise. Usually SMS will almost always eventually get through even on the most slammed networks, and the times where its been effectively dead has died down a good bit since the roll out of 5G. I'll often just switch to the venue's WiFi though, which often gives me pretty good speeds.

As others have mentioned, Mint (and many other MVNOs) has tethering included in all plans without any extras. It counts against your data allotment just like any other data, as it should be.

Re: T-Mobile Reaches Agreement to Acquire Mint Mobile for Up to $1.35B

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> even though Mint uses the same exact network. It's the same network, but you get the capacity that's left over after everyone on T-Mobile has had their fill. Which is why I don't get why everyone is always so excited about these MVNOs. To me, it's like bragging about how cheap airfare is when you go standby: "It's the exact same planes!".

It all depends on how much they oversubscribe their frequency band. As a Verizon, Tmobile, or Att customer you might be able to get 1gbps down .. but why do you need that on your phone? Why are they popular? It makes little sense to pay $90 a month per line. With MVNOs the price is about 20-30$/mo. (Options out there: StraightTalk, USMobible, Lycia, Mint, Visble, Ting, Google FI, etc) Some of these carriers are even…

Apparently Google Fi users have the same priority on t-mobile's network as t-mobile users do. https://www.reddit.com/r/GoogleFi/comments/wd5ijm/qcipriorit...

Re: T-Mobile Reaches Agreement to Acquire Mint Mobile for Up to $1.35B

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> even though Mint uses the same exact network. It's the same network, but you get the capacity that's left over after everyone on T-Mobile has had their fill. Which is why I don't get why everyone is always so excited about these MVNOs. To me, it's like bragging about how cheap airfare is when you go standby: "It's the exact same planes!".

It all depends on how much they oversubscribe their frequency band. As a Verizon, Tmobile, or Att customer you might be able to get 1gbps down .. but why do you need that on your phone? Why are they popular? It makes little sense to pay $90 a month per line. With MVNOs the price is about 20-30$/mo. (Options out there: StraightTalk, USMobible, Lycia, Mint, Visble, Ting, Google FI, etc) Some of these carriers are even…

> Why are they popular? It makes little sense to pay $90 a month per line.

Whoever is paying that much probably doesn't do his/her research or have access to some providers.

I pay $35/mo to T-Mobile. 5 GB at high speed per month. Unlimited everything else.

Seems their minimum is now $40/mo, but it goes down to $35/mo if you have two lines.

I'm sure some MVNOs are a lot cheaper, and I'm all for it. But complaining that the alternative is $90/mo is hard to swallow.

Re: T-Mobile Reaches Agreement to Acquire Mint Mobile for Up to $1.35B

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It all depends on how much they oversubscribe their frequency band. As a Verizon, Tmobile, or Att customer you might be able to get 1gbps down .. but why do you need that on your phone? Why are they popular? It makes little sense to pay $90 a month per line. With MVNOs the price is about 20-30$/mo. (Options out there: StraightTalk, USMobible, Lycia, Mint, Visble, Ting, Google FI, etc) Some of these carriers are even…

For MVNO on Verizon's network, any recommendations? I pay some absurd number for my Verizon plan in the Pacific Northwest because the mountains cause other providers (TMo, for example) to have no reception constantly. Verizon is basically the only choice. However i rarely use it, i spend 90% of the time on Wifi. I just want to be able to get texting/voice SMS/Phone/Data for emergencies (not just 911). So perhaps an M…

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Re: T-Mobile Reaches Agreement to Acquire Mint Mobile for Up to $1.35B

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It all depends on how much they oversubscribe their frequency band. As a Verizon, Tmobile, or Att customer you might be able to get 1gbps down .. but why do you need that on your phone? Why are they popular? It makes little sense to pay $90 a month per line. With MVNOs the price is about 20-30$/mo. (Options out there: StraightTalk, USMobible, Lycia, Mint, Visble, Ting, Google FI, etc) Some of these carriers are even…

For MVNO on Verizon's network, any recommendations? I pay some absurd number for my Verizon plan in the Pacific Northwest because the mountains cause other providers (TMo, for example) to have no reception constantly. Verizon is basically the only choice. However i rarely use it, i spend 90% of the time on Wifi. I just want to be able to get texting/voice SMS/Phone/Data for emergencies (not just 911). So perhaps an M…

RedPocket has $10/mo for 1gb data plans on VZW, which is marked as the CDMA provider on their site.

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> even though Mint uses the same exact network. It's the same network, but you get the capacity that's left over after everyone on T-Mobile has had their fill. Which is why I don't get why everyone is always so excited about these MVNOs. To me, it's like bragging about how cheap airfare is when you go standby: "It's the exact same planes!".

It all depends on how much they oversubscribe their frequency band. As a Verizon, Tmobile, or Att customer you might be able to get 1gbps down .. but why do you need that on your phone? Why are they popular? It makes little sense to pay $90 a month per line. With MVNOs the price is about 20-30$/mo. (Options out there: StraightTalk, USMobible, Lycia, Mint, Visble, Ting, Google FI, etc) Some of these carriers are even…

That $20/month 4GiB data (they have $15/mo as an intro rate) Mint mobile plan doesn't include any devices. Whereas $120/month to TMobile is $60 for their base Magenta service (which is still more than $15), but $30/month for an iPhone 14, and another $30/month for a series 7 iWatch (and plan for it). People want shiny new things and sign contracts to pay for them.

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For MVNO on Verizon's network, any recommendations? I pay some absurd number for my Verizon plan in the Pacific Northwest because the mountains cause other providers (TMo, for example) to have no reception constantly. Verizon is basically the only choice. However i rarely use it, i spend 90% of the time on Wifi. I just want to be able to get texting/voice SMS/Phone/Data for emergencies (not just 911). So perhaps an M…

Check if your phone has Band 71 support for good long range communication to the tower with T-Mobile. It's 600 MHz and has excellent penetration through trees. I got 7 mbps up and down through SIX MILES of 100 ft tall trees in Michigan at a cell aimed away from me using a high gain 600 MHz yagi on T-Mobile band 71. The other bands were uselessly attenuated (with smaller yagi antennas and diversity). Verizon has histo…

What do you mean by "high gain 600 MHz yagi"? you can't just attach an antenna to a cellphone, the phone doesn't have the connector for that, but also the FCC has Opinions about you doing that

Re: T-Mobile Reaches Agreement to Acquire Mint Mobile for Up to $1.35B

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I wouldn't say that it's really a threat. Part of what you're offering Mint is a guarantee that you aren't going to churn for an entire year each time you renew along with an up-front payment so they don't have to worry about chasing down payments. I'd also note that the $15 annual plan is a 4GB plan. Normally, Mint charges $25/mo for that 4GB plan if you buy in a 3-month increment. It looks like Mint also doesn't in…

I bought the 10GB plan for 1yr up-front. List price was $240, was $267.25 after taxes and fees. So their $20/mo was actually $22.27. > If you don't want fancy phones and don't want unlimited data, it might not be worth it to you. People bothering to try and save $20-30/mo probably aren't the target market for upgrading a $1000 device every year or two. Also, I don't like the financial shenanigans pushing me to upgrad…

Agree on all this. I recently switched three lines from Ting to Mint. On Ting the three lines were sharing 1GB of data without issue. Now we each have 4GB for only a couple of bucks extra per month total with taxes and such factored in and it just feels so extravagant. I also just got a new phone after over 5 years with my last one. I generally don't spend more than $200 on a new phone (Pixel 7 this time around) so I'm not in that demographic of looking for a new device every couple of years.

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For this comparison to hold, Activision and Figma would need to be services built on top of Microsoft/Adobe. Mint has always existed at TMobiles pleasure.

I don't think GP is saying that they're good analogs aside from them being mergers that are ultimately bad for the health of the market place.

I repeat, Mint has always existed at the pleasure of TMobile. This is a no-op.
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