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Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

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Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

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Post by witheld »

maxbrunsfeld wrote: post #76
starkparker wrote: post #46

Closed-source editor built on a closed-source framework, telemetry built-in with no documented opt-out, hardcoded language servers, macOS only.

The moment that you open Zed for the first time, you see a welcome screen that offers telemetry opt-out. The editor will be open-source and cross-platform, but it takes time to build things.

You can, and should, build things in public.

EDIT: I just don’t trust promises for things to be open source. Notch said Minecraft would be open source, and look where that went. A promise let’s you skip out on releasing the code if it turns out to be a convenient or profitable options.

Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

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Post by MissTake »

DennisAleynikov wrote: post #21
TheRealDunkirk wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only if you're trying to build for Windows.

No macOS is a horrible developer platform in general. The only thing that makes it remotely viable is the tireless efforts of the Homebrew project. I can't imagine thinking macOS is a good programmer OS

How dare there be choices?

I’m a developer - I do a huge amount of work on Sql Server and .Net.

Unless I need to update some Sql Server CLR Procedures, all my development is done on my Mac using the Jetbrains suite or Azure Data Studio.

So it obviously works for many of us.

You do you, we’ll do us.

Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

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Post by commoner »

glass3 wrote: post #40
deburo wrote: post #4

Ahh bummer :/ > https://github.com/zed-industries/community/issues/174 > Hey y'all – We are excited that you all are excited to try Zed. Just want to make sure expectations are in check – We plan to release on multiple platforms for 1.0, but work on these has not even begun yet.

Can't other platforms use https://www.darlinghq.org/ to run that MacOS application on Linux?

Darling will hopefully one day support complex GUI applications, but it's not there yet.

From https://www.darlinghq.org:

> Does it support GUI apps?

> Almost! This took us a lot of time and effort, but we finally have basic experimental support for running simple graphical applications.

From https://docs.darlinghq.org/known-nonfunctional-software.html:

> GUI applications will not work in Darling at this point in time, with very few exceptions.

> Any complex GUI application in general will not work at this point in time - only simple "Hello World" type GUIs will work.

Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

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Post by prmoustache »

maxbrunsfeld wrote: post #76
starkparker wrote: post #46

Closed-source editor built on a closed-source framework, telemetry built-in with no documented opt-out, hardcoded language servers, macOS only.

The moment that you open Zed for the first time, you see a welcome screen that offers telemetry opt-out. The editor will be open-source and cross-platform, but it takes time to build things.

It should be opt-in

Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

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Post by depr »

paxys wrote: post #58
starkparker wrote: post #46

Closed-source editor built on a closed-source framework, telemetry built-in with no documented opt-out, hardcoded language servers, macOS only.

It's like they took a look at everything that made Atom and VS Code so popular, and decided to do the exact opposite.

Actually, no, Microsoft also likes to have closed source language servers or plugins like Pylance and part of the C# stuff.

Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

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Post by u320 »

jchw wrote: post #35

To save some clicks: > Currently, Zed only supports macOS. That was actually from June of last year. It makes sense to start with a limited scope, but given that it's reaching public beta without much consideration for platforms outside of macOS, I wonder if it will ever actually feel "native" elsewhere, or if it will wind up ossified with Apple-specific idiosyncrasies. Time will tell. Personally, I was mostly intere…

It doesn't feel native on MacOS either, and wouldn't look any more out of place on Windows or Linux.

Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

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Post by threads2 »

TremendousJudge wrote: post #74
TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I felt burned by the loss of Atom. Why is this project going to be different?

I'm so angry about Atom, I haven't been able to move on. I'm using Pulsar out of spite. I'd like to move to emacs (for all its faults, it will never do what Atom did) but I can't be arsed to learn to configure it so it works exactly the way I want it to. I don't have the energy to learn an entirely new tool, I don't know what to do.

I'm trying to learn emacs too - last night I kept ChatGPT open and asked it any questions I had ("what's the hotkey to open up a new window below the current one") and I'm getting better really quickly.
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