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Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

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Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

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post #17

No mention of extensibility is a big red flag, and if it isn't open-source it presents the same risk as anyone adopting Atom originally ended up getting burned by.

I felt burned by the loss of Atom. Why is this project going to be different?

Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

#52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. It's written in Rust, with a custom UI framework. More details in this blog post: https://zed.dev/blog/videogame

Yep. Looks like you're right >strings /Volumes/Zed/Zed.app/Contents/MacOS/zed | grep rust returns a load of references to 'rustc' and 'cargo'

That's max! One of the Zed Industries cofounders :D

Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

#53
When I clicked I had the vague sense that I had seen "code at the speed of thought" elsewhere, and a quick google showed that it's a pretty common thing for people to claim, especially about editors or related features. Maybe not the best choice of motto.

Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

#54
post #45

Hell of a license: ---- INVESTIGATIONS, MONITORING, & NO OBLIGATION TO PRE-SCREEN CONTENT. Zed may, but is not obligated to, investigate, monitor, pre-screen, remove, refuse, or review the Service and/or Content, including Your Content and User Content, at any time. By entering into the Agreement, you hereby provide your irrevocable consent to such monitoring. You acknowledge and agree that you have no expectation of…

Wait WHAT. That sounds like an April fools license...

Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

#55
post #45

Hell of a license: ---- INVESTIGATIONS, MONITORING, & NO OBLIGATION TO PRE-SCREEN CONTENT. Zed may, but is not obligated to, investigate, monitor, pre-screen, remove, refuse, or review the Service and/or Content, including Your Content and User Content, at any time. By entering into the Agreement, you hereby provide your irrevocable consent to such monitoring. You acknowledge and agree that you have no expectation of…

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Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

#56
post #45

Hell of a license: ---- INVESTIGATIONS, MONITORING, & NO OBLIGATION TO PRE-SCREEN CONTENT. Zed may, but is not obligated to, investigate, monitor, pre-screen, remove, refuse, or review the Service and/or Content, including Your Content and User Content, at any time. By entering into the Agreement, you hereby provide your irrevocable consent to such monitoring. You acknowledge and agree that you have no expectation of…

yea, thats gonna be a no for me dawg

Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

#57

It looks interesting but, given how Atom was abruptly taken out the back and put out of its misery, are many devs are going to invest the time in going all in on Zed? EDIT: Just had a look inside the app bundle to see if they were using Electron again. Looks like this is built round WebRTC instead. EDIT2: Actually the actual 'zed' binary is just under 284MB, so maybe Zed's not built round the WebRTC framework, but ju…

> WebRTC

Right now, this is just used for the screen-sharing feature.

> The binary is pretty big by itself

It is. One major reasons is that we're shipping a "fat binary" (x86_64 and arm64 build in a single file). We did this to simplify the download process for users, but now that the app is getting bigger, we should probably start shipping two separate DMGs, to reduce the download time. That would cut the binary size in half.

Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

#58

Closed-source editor built on a closed-source framework, telemetry built-in with no documented opt-out, hardcoded language servers, macOS only.

It's like they took a look at everything that made Atom and VS Code so popular, and decided to do the exact opposite.

Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

#59
post #22

To me it's a kinda distasteful design that despite being a graphical application, this is using monospaced font for the titlebar, tab headers, file tree, etc. Looks odd on Mac. In general Zed seems to be at a decent starting point though. Aside from its "multiplayer editing" aspect, it comes across like it has been very heavily influenced in terms of scope by Sublime.

Same, I hate the used font. I’m in since closed beta and still waiting for the option to finally get rid of that default font

Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

#60
post #45

Hell of a license: ---- INVESTIGATIONS, MONITORING, & NO OBLIGATION TO PRE-SCREEN CONTENT. Zed may, but is not obligated to, investigate, monitor, pre-screen, remove, refuse, or review the Service and/or Content, including Your Content and User Content, at any time. By entering into the Agreement, you hereby provide your irrevocable consent to such monitoring. You acknowledge and agree that you have no expectation of…

Not in anyway justifying it, but is this for some kind of "social" feature or does it actually relate to code you write?

I wonder if this is for some kind of content moderation law compliance? It's a shitty licence but exactly the behavior that's incentivized by governments imposing content moderation rules

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