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Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

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Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

#31

Will it be open-source?

Yeah, the plan is to open-source the editor itself before we release 1.0. We will probably keep some part of the collaboration system closed-source, so that we can build our business around that feature set. We have some work to do to decide exactly what will be closed source and separate that out from the rest of the application code.

Awesome!

Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

#32
post #2

This actually looks really, really good. Looks like I need to update macOS from 10.15.5 sometime soon. I use a Hackintosh, so this'll be fun (I've been putting it off because I finally got it to "work" and got scared/wanted to be productive again). Any idea on their plans to monetize? I assume they will eventually charge, since they raised a 10M series A.

Re: Your Hackintosh

The good news is that if you used OpenCore + vanilla macOS install (basically if you followed the excellent OpenCore Install Guide [1]) and don't have any weird hardware (Intel CPU + iGPU / AMD GPU) you can pretty much just perform updates as normal through Software Update. It is certainly important that you make a backup of your EFI (might as well make a backup of the entire drive you can restore to in case something goes wrong) as well as double check the OC guide to see if there's any snags to look out for when updating.

One time-consuming thing I did when I ran a Hackintosh was to have a separate drive that I used as a macOS update test bed for major versions, and then if all went well I would perform the real update on my main drive.

I would also recommend you look at /r/Hackintosh and maybe ask around there for any advice.

Good luck!

[1] - https://dortania.github.io/OpenCore-Install-Guide/

Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

#33

Will it be open-source?

No.* From their FAQ:

> Will Zed be open source?

> We'd like to be as open as possible while maintaining the ability to run a profitable business. This probably means some kind of "open core" model, where the editor is available under the GPL but other parts of our system remain proprietary. The timeline and exact strategy are still uncertain at this stage.

* It's a judgment call to call something open core open-source. This is my opinion. The "other parts of our system" makes it sound like vscode, which doesn't feel very open source now. https://ghuntley.com/fracture/

Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

#34
Will download and setup. I hope they have sustainable business around it. For myself I do not mind ~$100 or so for a single version and upgrade in every couple of years if I find it useful. I have SublimeText and I will use both if this new editor has certain features to raise productivity.

Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

#35
To save some clicks:

> Currently, Zed only supports macOS.

That was actually from June of last year. It makes sense to start with a limited scope, but given that it's reaching public beta without much consideration for platforms outside of macOS, I wonder if it will ever actually feel "native" elsewhere, or if it will wind up ossified with Apple-specific idiosyncrasies. Time will tell.

Personally, I was mostly interested in their Rust GPUI library, but it hasn't been open sourced. (Yet; it does look like there is a plan to open source some of Zed, though obviously it's possible it never happens.) It sounded like a great idea and even in an early stage would probably be a great addition to the nascent ecosystem of Rust UI libraries.

Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

#36

It looks interesting but, given how Atom was abruptly taken out the back and put out of its misery, are many devs are going to invest the time in going all in on Zed? EDIT: Just had a look inside the app bundle to see if they were using Electron again. Looks like this is built round WebRTC instead. EDIT2: Actually the actual 'zed' binary is just under 284MB, so maybe Zed's not built round the WebRTC framework, but ju…

> Actually the actual 'zed' binary is just under 284MB

MicroEmacs for DOS was 50K.

Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

#37
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

is it an electron app? like vs code?

No. It's written in Rust, with a custom UI framework. More details in this blog post: https://zed.dev/blog/videogame

Yep. Looks like you're right

  >strings /Volumes/Zed/Zed.app/Contents/MacOS/zed  | grep rust
returns a load of references to 'rustc' and 'cargo'

Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

#38
post #2

This actually looks really, really good. Looks like I need to update macOS from 10.15.5 sometime soon. I use a Hackintosh, so this'll be fun (I've been putting it off because I finally got it to "work" and got scared/wanted to be productive again). Any idea on their plans to monetize? I assume they will eventually charge, since they raised a 10M series A.

The editor will be free, and they will monetize the network features (or so they say)

https://zed.dev/faq#how-will-you-make-money

Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

#39
post #2

This actually looks really, really good. Looks like I need to update macOS from 10.15.5 sometime soon. I use a Hackintosh, so this'll be fun (I've been putting it off because I finally got it to "work" and got scared/wanted to be productive again). Any idea on their plans to monetize? I assume they will eventually charge, since they raised a 10M series A.

Our plan is for the core editor to be free and open-source.

We'll charge money for our backend service that powers collaboration in Zed. We have ambitious plans to improve the way that people work together on code. So far, on that front, we've been focused on real-time collaboration, but we have a lot of ideas for how we can improve asynchronous collaboration as well, by having discussions take place directly in the code editor.

Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

#40
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Ahh bummer :/ > https://github.com/zed-industries/community/issues/174 > Hey y'all – We are excited that you all are excited to try Zed. Just want to make sure expectations are in check – We plan to release on multiple platforms for 1.0, but work on these has not even begun yet.

Can't other platforms use https://www.darlinghq.org/ to run that MacOS application on Linux?
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