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Re: Kottke.org is 25 years old today

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Post by bookofjoe »

stefs wrote: post #50
capableweb wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Today, user generated content is a the golden goose that also shits everywhere and honks at everyone that comes through the door unless you police it tirelessly Meh, some sort of good spam filter + good moderation (not of dissident opinion but of pure trash , oneliners and other boring stuff) and you'll resolve most issues, at least when it comes to blog comments.

"good moderation" is hard and exhausting. it may be possible for your small blog with little traffic, but for something like kottke.org?

>it may be possible for your small blog with little traffic...

Indeed, it is possible. My blog (pretty much unchanged in format since 2004) gets around 500 page views/day and averages ±10 comments/week. Just right, small enough that I can respond personally to comments.

Re: Kottke.org is 25 years old today

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Post by bookofjoe »

ar9av wrote: post #6

These blogs (kottke.org , memex 1.1) offer daily-ish roundups of links and articles they find interesting, with a short (50-100 words) intro as to why the reader may also be interested. I don't like using email newsletters (my inbox is flooded enough), and long lists of urls is off-putting. Are there any other blogs that do something similar?

https://www.bookofjoe.com/

Re: Kottke.org is 25 years old today

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Post by NelsonMinar »

It's remarkable how influential Kottke still is. I've seen a whole lot of stories start as a Kottke post, then get picked up by an online journalist and either just run as-is or even better, investigated and turn into a detailed article on the subject.

Re: Kottke.org is 25 years old today

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Post by codethief »

macrael wrote: post #21

I'm not even done with it but I can't recommend enough Kottke getting interviewed by John Gruber on The Talk Show this week. It's a fun trip down memory lane hearing them talk about the beginning of the web as we know it. No one knew what a blog was yet and they were there figuring out what the web was for in the time before mega corps moved in. Kicked up a lot of nostalgia in me. I still read Kottke.org pretty much…

"I like your taste in internet" – Thanks, I will add this expression to my repertoire.

Re: Kottke.org is 25 years old today

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Post by justinator »

Brajeshwar wrote: post #5
ge96 wrote: post #3

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viagra ads, I remember

LOL! I think I bought my car (used), and (I at-least want to believe) the Nikon D40x with TexasHoldem Ads. ;-)

I attended school with my main job being running Google Ads. $900 check every month. And then there was the money I made off supporting the open source app (which I wrote in Perl) that the website running the Google Ads was for. The site couldn't have been more than a few dozen pages.

Good times.

Re: Kottke.org is 25 years old today

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Post by traeregan »

EA wrote: post #65

His font 'Silkscreen' was a hit. It was clean, tiny, and free and found all over the web in the early 2000's. I see it from time to time in various places. https://kottke.org/plus/type/silkscreen/

+1 thanks for this.

I was obsessed with pixel fonts for most of the early 2000s, and I found Jason's website because of Silkscreen.

This really takes me back: https://web.archive.org/web/20010603232545/https://kottke.or...

Re: Kottke.org is 25 years old today

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Post by zamnos »

interactivecode wrote: post #66
capableweb wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've personally been a moderator for communities with up to ~2 million users, where the main point of the biggest community was discussions around subjects that are generally taboo in society, so it attracts a lot of low-effort posts for sure. On average, the community had at least ~50K members online at any given time, if there is some big news that number increased a lot. And we managed to moderate it well. Granted…

Moderation is real continued work, not something you can do once and solve. Putting up an real life event at any size requires moderation or guiding the visitors. I don't know why people in tech continue to be surprised about having to take care of their audience.

There's taking care of your audience, and then there's discovering that not only are there some salespeople in your audience, trying to move v1xagra and c1alis, no that basically benign. It's that theres a mentally disturbed person going around, shitting on your digital walls and yelling at your other users. There's a digital gunman in your audience trying take your users hostage with ransomware. Which, I mean, after Columbine, the foiled shooting at De Anza College, Sandy Hook, the Mandalay Bay shooting, among far too many others; after those events IRL maybe I shouldn't be surprised when my site gets probed yet again for WordPress vulnerabilities, but (and my naivety is showing once again) in looking back from 2023, and comparing it to 1998 pre-Columbine kotte.org through my rose colored glasses, it's hard not to feel that something's wrong. I don't have to police the people I let into my house for them shitting on the walls, why is it so normal digitally and just accepted as the cost of doing business?

Most recently, the author of the basement community site documented their dealings with some when their site got popular, which included someone(s) of an anti-social bent. The cynic in me saw that coming from miles away so it's no longer a surprise, but in reflecting about 25 years of Kottke.org, actually, yeah it is.

https://basementcommunity.bearblog.dev/things-i-learned/

(posted here at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35132223)

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