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Hetzner launches three new dedicated servers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Based on my two decade experience in the field ranging being part of the team that was building super computers to one that was moving amazon.com to aws, there are many dimensions that you need to consider for computational workloads. The primary deciding factor is always security. You simply cannot use any small vendor because of the physical security (or the lack thereof). Unless of course you do not care about sec…

> The primary deciding factor is always security so, anywhere where your workloads or data are physically co-located on the same hardware as someone else's should be automatically disqualified, right?

No. It is only a risk if an attacker can use it somewhow. Would you show me a scenario how could an attacker gain knowledge of which physical server my lambda function is running AWS and break out from the container and get access to my container? This risk is acceptable for most workloads. Maybe not for the tree letter gov agencies, this is why they got gov cloud. You see, again, what is the use-case? What is the risk? What risk is acceptable?

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it keeps bringing me to a 500 error, and now i'm banned for 60 seconds with "Request on Hold - Suspicous Activity Detected" ...? edit: seems the entire hetzner site is doing this, redirecting me to /_ray/pow which is an error

At least it's telling you that in this case.

They also "shadowban" users, i.e. you'd try to register only for them to lock your account, make you send them your ID and such, and then still refuse to open an account for you. All because their crappy fraud detection system didn't like the IP from which you sent it or something.

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I've been using Hetzner servers for ~15 years with multiple clients and employers, and always been disappointed with other providers compared to what Hetzner delivers. OVH with their frequent network level outages, the 2021 fire and so on. DigitalOcean with their way too frequent and long lasting maintenance windows. And AWS/GCP/Azure with their obscene pricing, ridiculous SLA and occasional hour-lasting outages. One…

The first time I saw Hetzner's pricing - I assumed it must've been a scam - since it seemed like such an incredible deal, and yet I hadn't heard of a single person that ever used it.

Glad that I'm regularly seeing how awesome this company is lately.

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Does anyone know of a managed postgres service that happens to use Hetzner? I'm running my own PG instances on Hetzner, but getting tired of managing it myself. Going with a 3rd party makes me worried about latency (currently it's like 1-4ms...I'd rather not increase that to 50ms for a service located somewhere else). Haven't found anything by Googling, so was wondering if anyone here works somewhere that does this.

We have been running Zalando's Patroni in K8S on Hetzner and couldn't be happier.

Re: Hetzner launches three new dedicated servers

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I've been using Hetzner servers for ~15 years with multiple clients and employers, and always been disappointed with other providers compared to what Hetzner delivers. OVH with their frequent network level outages, the 2021 fire and so on. DigitalOcean with their way too frequent and long lasting maintenance windows. And AWS/GCP/Azure with their obscene pricing, ridiculous SLA and occasional hour-lasting outages. One…

Just wish they had more of a US presence. Latency is a killer for me.

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I've been using Hetzner servers for ~15 years with multiple clients and employers, and always been disappointed with other providers compared to what Hetzner delivers. OVH with their frequent network level outages, the 2021 fire and so on. DigitalOcean with their way too frequent and long lasting maintenance windows. And AWS/GCP/Azure with their obscene pricing, ridiculous SLA and occasional hour-lasting outages. One…

Not to mention their default DDoS protection by default. AWS DDoS team costs about $6000 last I checked here in hnews. Of course most corporation chose AWS because of permission management console.

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Why should we bother with Dedicated servers for mission critical workloads ? The advantage of VMs is that I could delete a VM at the earliest sign of trouble and spin up a new one without even making any attempt to contact support. When a dedicated server fails , we en up playing a game of Tag with technical support.

you can do this now. you can but 10 bare metal machines, cheaper that any aws/etc add docker and done.

Re: Hetzner launches three new dedicated servers

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I've been using Hetzner servers for ~15 years with multiple clients and employers, and always been disappointed with other providers compared to what Hetzner delivers. OVH with their frequent network level outages, the 2021 fire and so on. DigitalOcean with their way too frequent and long lasting maintenance windows. And AWS/GCP/Azure with their obscene pricing, ridiculous SLA and occasional hour-lasting outages. One…

While I like Hetzner a lot and can share your recommendations, I just don't see how it compares to full-blown cloud providers like AWS, GCP or Azure. It's a common misconception to put them at the same level when the offering is completely different. Nobody seriously uses AWS/GCP/Azure to have a couple VMs or dedicated servers alone. If someone can run their full workload in e.g. Hetzner without much hassle then they…

> Nobody seriously uses AWS/GCP/Azure to have a couple VMs or dedicated servers alone.

Most of my clients do just that - just EC2 on AWS. Ofcourse, my experience may not represent average case, but it is certainly not "nobody". I believe that most do it because AWS/Azure is the "safe option".

Choosing AWS/Azure is the modern version of "Nobody ever gets fired for buying IBM".

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I just recently tried Hertzner myself and I love the experience for now. I am aware that I am comparing apples and oranges here but; Hertzners UI is just so fast and simple compared to AWS and the pricing is great. Even their invoices are clean and understandable.

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Wish I could actually register, as mentioned in another thread they have both faulty and yet extremely aggressive registration check where they make you send them your ID with a bunch of other things and yet will still reject you based on who knows what.

I've seen a lot of spam coming from their IPs, so they probably have a lot of headache with filtering out bad customers.
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