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I wish you could rent something like a dedicated server on an hourly basis. As I understand it, cloud VMs are not capable to run large neural networks like StableDiffusion, Llama etc because they don't have a GPU, right? I would like to play with these new toys, but I don't know where I can get a cloud machine capable of running them.
If you just want to play with DL, I suggest Google Colab Pro.
tl;dr Mini rant (pro dedicated, anti-cloud) Amazon has done an amazing job of convincing people that their hosting choice is between cloud (aka, AWS) or the higher-risk, knowledge intensive, self-hosting (aka, colocation). You see this play out all the time in HN comments. CTOs make expensive and expansive decisions believing these are the only two options. AWS has been so good at this, that for CEOs and some younger…
Doing your career a favor is how we ended up in this situation in the first place. The tech industry had way too much free money floating around that there was never any market pressure to operate profitably, so complexity increased to fill the available resources.
This has now gone on long enough that there are now entire careers built around the idea that the cloud is the only way - people that spend all day rewriting YAML/Terraform files, or developers turning every single little feature into a complex, failure-prone distributed system because the laptop-grade CPU their code runs on can't do it synchronously in a reasonable amount of time.
All these people, their managers and decision makers could end up out of a job or face inconvenient consequences if the industry were to call out the bullshit collectively, so it's in everyone's best interest to not call it out. I’m sure there are cloud DevOps people that feel the same way but wouldn’t admit it because it’s more lucrative for them to keep pretending.
This works at multiple levels too, as a startup, you wouldn't be considered "cool" and deserving of VC funding (the aforementioned "free money") if you don't build an engineering playground based on laptop-grade CPU performance rented by the minute at 10x+ markup. You wouldn't be considered a "cool" place to work for either if prospective "engineers" or DevOps people can't use this opportunity to put "cloud" on their CVs and brag about solving self-inflicted problems.
Clueless, non-tech companies are affected too - they got suckered into the whole "cloud" idea, and admitting their mistake would be politically inconvenient (and potentially require firing/retraining/losing some employees), so they'd rather continue and pour more money into the dumpster fire.
A reckoning on the cloud and a return to rationality would actually work out well for everyone, including those who have a reason to use it, as it would force them to lower their prices to compete. But as long as everyone is happy to pay their insane markups, why would they not take the money?
I wish you could rent something like a dedicated server on an hourly basis. As I understand it, cloud VMs are not capable to run large neural networks like StableDiffusion, Llama etc because they don't have a GPU, right? I would like to play with these new toys, but I don't know where I can get a cloud machine capable of running them.
Yeah when I land on your web site and I get: Request on Hold - Suspicous Activity Detected. I'm turned off instantly. I'm on a static IP on a respectable ISP in the UK and I'm not waiting in a queue for 57 seconds and counting to look at the sales pitch. Edit: so I use that time wisely to shitpost about it on HN, then check TrustPilot and I see: "Unfortunately, based on your description (I need a ticket number or oth…
Maybe you're behind «Carrier-grade NAT», sharing your public IP with thousands of other customers?
There is no excuse for being a victim of an algorithm.
And I never get this anywhere else!
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Yeah companies and their small minded "sysadmins" are very eager to use an IP address as the primary predictor of hostile intent, sometimes they add user-agent as well. Not sure why but this is the sort of behaviour why I cannot trust such companies with my business.
HN does the same
Recently moved some workloads from GCP to a dedicated Hetzner box with 12900k, 128GB ram and 2TB NVME raid. This thing SCREAMS, running e.g Postgres with the same capacity in GCP would probbably cost > $1k/mo. Hetzner takes around 120 EUR. Also the bandwidht is like 10x cheaper with much larger free tier.
> Also the bandwidht is like 10x cheaper with much larger free tier. Hetzner bare metal have unlimited bandwidth.
If you pull a short straw, your box will be sharing bandwidth with a few bittorrent seed boxes or someone’s video CDN node
We've been a happy dedicated server customer since 2013, although we've just finished our transition from their dedicated servers in Germany to US Hetzner Cloud for improved latency.
Always happy to see Hetzner's name in lights, DHH also used Hetzner as a deployment target when announcing their MRSK tool that 37 Signals are using to automate deployments as they begin transitioning off the cloud.
[1] https://servicestack.net/blog/finding-best-us-value-cloud-pr...
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Yeah, they indeed are a discount provider, which means that they're about as reliable as AWS or GCP services (which have constant partial failures). I've been very happy with Hetzner for some workloads.
The expectation with AWS and GCP is that the constant intermittent failures are shouldn’t be visible to end users. * So filing tickets is a big difference in user requirements. * Though GCP (back when it was just AppEngine) wasn’t always this way and as GAE users inside Google we had to write our own code for what we expected to fail, retries, backoffs etc.
Obviously replacing AWS features like RDS multi-AZ masters is not going to be as easy and might be worth paying the whole AWS premium, but that really depends on the business size, traffic, internal experience and many other factors.
I have been working in the industry since 20 years and i have not a single bad word to loose about Hetzner. Their Service has always been impeccable and their servers just run. I have been running k8s clusters on hetzner for quite some time now and the flexibility for the price is exactly what i expect from a hoster! Now with this addition Hetzner closes another gap that made projects spends thousands more on enterpr…
> I have been working in the industry since 20 years and i have not a single bad word to loose about Hetzner. I use them, and I've been very happy with both pricing, reliability and the service. Only possible bad thing to say about them: their static IP's aren't always "clean": I had a couple of instances where the IP I was allocated was blacklisted and it took some back and forth with their customer service to fix t…
Isn't that a problem you're always going to get with $any provider? You never know who previously owned that IP and what they did with it.