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Re: French workers protest plan to increase retirement age

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These stats are for the U.S., but one thing that usually get ignored in these retirement discussions is just how massively life expectancy depends on income level and sex: http://www.equality-of-opportunity.org/health/ Raising the retirement pension age screws over the poor, especially poor men. Perhaps retirement age should be tied to income/wealth somehow ... and maybe even sex (as controversial as I imagine that w…

An aboriginal man in Australia is suing on exactly that basis - he has a lower life expectancy and so wants access to the pension earlier. https://www.sbs.com.au/nitv/article/uncle-dennis-is-taking-t...

Wonder why race is the metric here? Men also have shorter lifespans, and I assume there will be other constants that correlate with life expectancy (height, hair colour, genetic disposition to disease, etc).

Re: French workers protest plan to increase retirement age

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

no. inflation is really good in an economy where salaries rise. its good to borrow money, its good for the working population (the one that makes the country thrive) and it is less good for retired people (that already own wealth and lived through better economic times) In France think about it, the majority of the working population voted for Marine LePen, the majority of retired people voted for Macron, Young non w…

I think you'll find French pensions do not rise to keep pace with inflation. And especially not "promised" pensions, you know yours or mine, the pension for people still working.

yes they did rise this year linked to inflation while at the same time gov insisted for not raising salaries

Re: French workers protest plan to increase retirement age

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you'll find French pensions do not rise to keep pace with inflation. And especially not "promised" pensions, you know yours or mine, the pension for people still working.

yes they did rise this year linked to inflation while at the same time gov insisted for not raising salaries

As I said they did not rise to keep pace with inflation. Which means they got closer to the minimum. The minimum, btw, also dropped, expressed in real goods.

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As a French citizen, I find it unsurprising that the usual top comments here are all about numbers. Life expectancy going up, do your part, work work work. That people are angry is not about the damn numbers. It's about the attitude of a political class that had private restaurant dinners behind closed doors during lockdown times where the population was fined for being out walking their dogs, it's about a president…

you have more at stake in the topic than i do, but as someone still affected by the strikes, i got a few words to retort: if the way to go about protesting is to choose days as per convenience and to have barbeque on the tram tracks, then feel free to do this on a weekly basis. meanwhile, the people on the grind are being affected by disruption of essential public utilities. just like the roller-skating phenomenon me…

You're so thoroughly wrong that it's funny: literally a huge majority of French people are agreeing with the movement despite the hindrances.
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