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Re: AI for developers and Google Workspace

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such a weird take...ChatGPT is thus far just an incredible demo you've actually switched browsers to have access to it? why???

It sounds like it's Bing Chat, not ChatGPT. They are fairly different – ChatGPT being fairly mature but heavyweight, and Bing Chat being truly unhinged. But yeah, Bing Chat is only available in Edge.

To use "the good Bing", you only need to change the user agent of your favorite browser to Edge.

Re: AI for developers and Google Workspace

#222
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> So if you’re a manager onboarding a new employee, Workspace saves you the time and effort involved in writing that first welcome email. If you really can't be bothered to write the welcome email maybe just don't, rather than throwing some ML generated drivel as the first impression a new hire gets of your management. The direction this is going in is so focused on automating away the hassle of email, with the end s…

> If you really can't be bothered to write the welcome email maybe just don't

not everyone has good english and corporate writing skills.

Re: AI for developers and Google Workspace

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Can we not pretend people weren't already googling sample emails for this? It's just more efficient now to grab the same starter email that you then customize. Admittedly, google shouldn't be pretending otherwise, either. But what they also did was make it so you can get the starter email without having to see their ads. Edited to add: I think a better argument on this could he made about the "draft a thank you note…

I don't really want to read (or "write") a bunch of impersonal junk written by AI. Can we skip this phase of technology? Edit: Maybe this will inspire the next wave of tech burnouts turned mushroom farmers

Exactly.

I would honestly prefer blunt, straightforward, de-GPTified communication style. I hate the idea of wasting my time on reading substance-free filler, regardless of whether it was written by an AI or not.

Re: AI for developers and Google Workspace

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post #5

Can't wait for Google to add ChatGPT-like features to Chrome and their suite of Web Apps so I can finally ditch Microsoft Edge with it's ChatGPT integration. The UI of Edge is god awful. It has the same issue as Explorer in Windows where Microsoft thinks showing you all UI buttons and other UI elements at once is a great idea. Microsoft can't make compelling consumer facing products to save their life.

I actually liked Edge and was happy to move away from Chrome. Then they started injecting their content into web pages. And then some shopping feature. I hate seeing the "You can now add extensions from the Chrome..." banner when I'm logged in the Chrome web store. It won't go away even after I closed it multiple times. I started using Brave.

Remember that firefox exists.

Re: AI for developers and Google Workspace

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post #98

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is this going to be like Google Duplex, i.e. mostly forgotten, then unceremoniously shut down?

Google Duplex wasn't shut down. It still is a thing built into Google Assistant on Android.

With a lot of Google projects, they are "killed" by integrating their features in other projects or merged.

Re: AI for developers and Google Workspace

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post #172

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If you’re only talking to your directs for 10-15 minutes every two weeks you are neglecting your duties as a manager. The standard is 30 minutes 1x week with every direct report.

Maybe the idealised standard but certainly not what is going on at most companies

Perhaps. That’s my standard for my team and the managers that report to me.

Re: AI for developers and Google Workspace

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That seems reasonable - if you're trying to create a market for a publicly-available chat-AI, and making a demo freely available for PR/advertising purposes, then the public perception of that demo is critical to your business. If they had just put up the same model without that attempt to make GPT wear a politically-correct mask, they'd just get another Microsoft Tay event, and only get a buttload of negative public…

If ChatGPT is useful people are going to use it anyway, even if there is negative publicity because when you bait it with "Is X race superior to Y race?" it gives you a non PC answer.

ChatGPT isn't the only game in town, and corporate purchasing departments (which are the actual target audience) will then rather buy a similar service from Google or someone else, even if it's slightly worse, rather than have to explain themselves (and risk their personal position) to why they're using the toxic taboo thing that's reviled by the press.

Re: AI for developers and Google Workspace

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post #4

> So if you’re a manager onboarding a new employee, Workspace saves you the time and effort involved in writing that first welcome email. If you really can't be bothered to write the welcome email maybe just don't, rather than throwing some ML generated drivel as the first impression a new hire gets of your management. The direction this is going in is so focused on automating away the hassle of email, with the end s…

This is hilarious. The point of a task like a welcome email is that they _take effort_.

I can’t help but think that an example like this shows how far Google has become like Microsoft in the 2000s. A bunch of rich, middle aged managers that have spent too long in the alphabet soup.

Re: AI for developers and Google Workspace

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post #56

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Fortunately for middle and line managers, the vaunted 1:1 hasn't been automated yet, nor does it scale, so the technology doesn't allow managers to have more than, say, 60 direct report effectively. Meeting with each of them for 1 hour every other week only leaves 20 hours every other week for work that isn't a 1:1. I think middle management will be safe for a little while longer.

Just wait until employees are told to do their 1:1 with a chatbot...

Heh that might even be a better experience

Re: AI for developers and Google Workspace

#230
post #4

> So if you’re a manager onboarding a new employee, Workspace saves you the time and effort involved in writing that first welcome email. If you really can't be bothered to write the welcome email maybe just don't, rather than throwing some ML generated drivel as the first impression a new hire gets of your management. The direction this is going in is so focused on automating away the hassle of email, with the end s…

Seriously! If the content of your email could have been generated using an AI trained on publicly available information, it necessarily must not include anything private. Which means you are spam messaging your new hires with messages that contain zero actual information! Noise is a word that does not even properly capture the uselessness of such communications. I swear, many humans seem to just want filler text to p…

I recommend trying out GPT3 and now the new released GPT4. Using them to collaboratly write correspondence is eye opening.

You use ai as a tool, you prompt it, change its results and feed it back.

A little work gives you impressive results way faster than if you wrote the whole thing yourself

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