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GPT4 is up to 6 times more expensive than GPT3.5

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Post by JohnFen »

icapybara wrote: post #11
lewdev wrote: post #2

And website still says "openai."

Should they not be able to make money off a world changing new technology they bet billions on? Does your company offer all its products for free?

The problem with the name isn't that they're charging. It's that they're implying that they're something in the ballpark of open source when they're not.

Re: GPT4 is up to 6 times more expensive than GPT3.5

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Post by VWWHFSfQ »

Mizza wrote: post #13

Does anybody have their hands on it? Is it actually 6 times better at performing tasks, or are we paying more for improved corporate-friendly bumper bowling?

In my anecodotal experience, GPT-4 is at least a million times better than GPT-3.

It's like night and day.

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Post by alchemist1e9 »

VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #22
Mizza wrote: post #13

Does anybody have their hands on it? Is it actually 6 times better at performing tasks, or are we paying more for improved corporate-friendly bumper bowling?

In my anecodotal experience, GPT-4 is at least a million times better than GPT-3. It's like night and day.

How are you trying it? I’m ChatGPT Plus subscriber but don’t see any change.

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Post by Mizza »

simonw wrote: post #14
Mizza wrote: post #13

Does anybody have their hands on it? Is it actually 6 times better at performing tasks, or are we paying more for improved corporate-friendly bumper bowling?

Not the API, but if you pay for ChatGPT Plus you can try it out there. It's very, very impressive so far - I've tried a bunch of things I've previously run against GPT-3 and got noticeably better results - maybe not a 2x or 6x multiple in "quality" (depending on how you measure that) but still very clearly improved. Posted a few examples here: https://fedi.simonwillison.net/@simon/110022949941148725

Thanks for the reply. I'm not all that impressed by "what is"/information retrieval tasks, is it any better at "thought" tasks like explanatory reasoning and ideogensis? For instance - "How might an agoraphobic kleptomaniac satisfy both of their desires simultaneously?"

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Post by alchemist1e9 »

nonfamous wrote: post #15
Mizza wrote: post #13

Does anybody have their hands on it? Is it actually 6 times better at performing tasks, or are we paying more for improved corporate-friendly bumper bowling?

If you've used Bing Chat, you've used GPT-4: https://blogs.bing.com/search/march_2023/Confirmed-the-new-B...

Bing Chat is more useful in many cases because it provides references that connect to it’s responses. I don’t like the mobile UI and that it doesn’t save your chats for you. Maybe I should try the web interface.

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Post by avisser »

Veen wrote: post #16

I imagine this price will come down over time. OpenAI has repeatedly said that they haven't the infrastructure in place yet to handle too much load and expect to be "severely capacity constrained", so I assume the high pricing and usage caps on the ChatGPT version are to keep the load manageably low for the moment.

I imagine those dollars from papa Nadella are buying LOTS of capacity as we speak.

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Post by behnamoh »

obblekk wrote: post #9

Worth remembering GPT3 was 10-20 times more expensive 2yrs ago. There's a super-moore's law type learning function going on here and I suspect in 1yr GPT4.5 will be the same cost as GPT3.5 today. It's insane... feels like iPhone 3G to iPhone 4 level quality improvement every year.

That's incorrect information. The original GPT3 price was about x3 times its current price, not 10-20 times.

https://the-decoder.com/openai-cuts-prices-for-gpt-3-by-two-...

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Post by Maxion »

obblekk wrote: post #9

Worth remembering GPT3 was 10-20 times more expensive 2yrs ago. There's a super-moore's law type learning function going on here and I suspect in 1yr GPT4.5 will be the same cost as GPT3.5 today. It's insane... feels like iPhone 3G to iPhone 4 level quality improvement every year.

GPT-4 is a scary improvement over 3.5, especially for handling code. It will be the literal definition of awesome when these models get a large enough context space to hold a small-medium sized codebase.

I've been playing around with it for an hour seeing what it can do to refactor some of the things we have with the most tech debt, and it is astounding how well it does with how little context I give it.

Re: GPT4 is up to 6 times more expensive than GPT3.5

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Post by behnamoh »

sparrc wrote: post #4

6 times? My reading of these prices is that it's 45x more expensive (for 8K) and 90x more expensive (32k)

The title compares GPT3.5 (not ChatGPT) with GPT4. Although the question is: If ChatGPT can do almost anything GPT3.5 can do, then why is it priced almost 10x less? Is it because GPT3.5 is less "censored"?

Re: GPT4 is up to 6 times more expensive than GPT3.5

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Post by logical_proof »

alchemist1e9 wrote: post #23
VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my anecodotal experience, GPT-4 is at least a million times better than GPT-3. It's like night and day.

How are you trying it? I’m ChatGPT Plus subscriber but don’t see any change.

You should have the option when you start a new chat to use default or 4
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