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Khan Academy integrates GPT-4 as every student’s customized tutor

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jcims wrote: post #68

I’m sitting on the couch with my new grandson. He’s six months old. What is school going to look like for him over the course of his education? Should be interesting.

Xaeon-12 wakes up at 8am, has a bowl of cereal and put's on her VR goggles. She is greeted by her tutor Tom. Tom will guide her through advanced "AI prompt" class today. Xaeon-12 learns to create her own short story based on her dreams that were recorded the night before. 12am, time for lunch. After lunch, the kids all connect to play Roblox VR for 30 mins. Suddenly, the doorbell rings, but no one else is home. Fortunately, Xaeon-12 doesn't have to answer the door, as everything is automated. The mailbot dropped off some packages, before flying back to the zeppelin mothership to retrieve the next package. Xaeon-12 is just finishing her last class, "circuit boards", when her dads come home from the golf range – with an abundance of free, renewable energy, working for a basic income has become irrelevant.

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Post by pixl97 »

jcims wrote: post #68

I’m sitting on the couch with my new grandson. He’s six months old. What is school going to look like for him over the course of his education? Should be interesting.

Honestly it depends on the growth rate of our models and if they converge with human intelligence without requiring have the computing power on the planet.

If we get slow incremental progress over the years then it will act like an interactive personalized encyclopedia that can teach you based on your strengths and help bolster you where you are weak, as the technology improves that is.

Now, it's still scary as hell in some ways even in this slow growth mode. The authoritarians will love to have a system like this that just forgets particular parts of history and make reports back to the mothership if you ask too many 'wrong' questions. So actual implementation will be interesting to see.

Now, if we have explosive growth to AGI and beyond, then pretty much every bet about the future is cancelled and we'll have more luck in taking random guesses, gluing them to the wall, and then throwing darts at them blindfolded.

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Post by CuriouslyC »

Sol- wrote: post #96
CuriouslyC wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Learning is absolutely going to be required, we are just going to need to spend more time learning patterns and motifs rather than lots of facts. Learning facts and trivia was already devalued by everyone having a hyper-encyclopedia in their pockets, this will just extend that. Knowledge of patterns and motifs in domains of information will let you work together with the machines in a way that an untrained person wil…

I admire your optimism if you think that a human in the loop will add any value. Other than for humoring/entertaining the human, of course, which is what I meant with learning-as-a-hobby. Also, I'm not educator or very knowledgeable about the theory of learning, but I can imagine that "learning facts and trivia" is to some extent a necessity for exercising our brains when we are young. Of course, learning patterns an…

Humans are very efficient computers for many types of tasks. Humans also have a large body of multi-modal data with detailed annotations inferred by observation of other people's responses passed through our mirror circuitry that is unavailable to the AI, so they can sometimes provide relevant guidance even if they aren't better at the whole task. Finally, human neural networks are chaotic, so they can potentially find better global maximums in some cases than a model, which might end up trapped in a local minimum due to its inability to entertain sufficiently unlikely hypotheticals.

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Post by pixl97 »

ourmandave wrote: post #104

StackOverflow.com banned Chat-GPT answers 3 months ago and their traffic is down. https://techcabal.com/2023/01/31/stack-overflow-chat-gpt/ But on the plus side, this news means there will be fewer do-my-homework-for-me questions.

I mean, at the same time could that not also mean that people are going straight to ChatGPT to ask the question in the first place?

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Post by yamtaddle »

worrycue wrote: post #142
cypress66 wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chatgpt is already more accurate than a lot of my high school teachers.

There is being misinformed and making a mistake when reasoning. Then there is making s** up. Most humans have the decency to not do the latter while AI (at the moment) freely makes up complete lies when it doesn't have the answer instead of just admitting it doesn't know.

At least misleading instruction from teachers tends to be of a sort that others also experience, so can later be addressed en masse (e.g. mythologized history, poor-but-common explanations for things like how airplane wings work). Or spreading the same political propaganda that can be found all around, so is pretty easy to spot.

It's not usually that you ask them a question they can't answer, and they just confidently make up something entirely wrong, and possibly also an incorrect explanation that few or no other people have seen.

It's a different kind of wrong. One can write a book addressing common misconceptions picked up in school, from human teachers, and cover much of it. Does that work for lies AIs tell? They could be about almost anything, they could be broadly wrong, they could be subtly wrong, et c. "Show me some things my teachers may have been wrong about" seems to me an easier request to adequately address than "show me some things my AI tutors lied about", because the former tend to cluster around a kind of common space and form an experience with a great deal of overlap between students, while I'm not sure the latter do.

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Post by deely3 »

pixl97 wrote: post #155
ourmandave wrote: post #104

StackOverflow.com banned Chat-GPT answers 3 months ago and their traffic is down. https://techcabal.com/2023/01/31/stack-overflow-chat-gpt/ But on the plus side, this news means there will be fewer do-my-homework-for-me questions.

I mean, at the same time could that not also mean that people are going straight to ChatGPT to ask the question in the first place?

Nope unfortunately. Main reason is that people used ChatGPT to generate not validated and sometime completely wrong answers that looks very realistic.

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Post by pixl97 »

falcrist wrote: post #98
blurbleblurble wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Replace "AI" with "powerful institutions" and you hit it on the head. Maybe "AI" should stand for "augmented institutions". Maybe you'd be interested in Paulo Freire's book "The Pedagogy of the Oppressed"?

Dune touched on this topic in 1965. Frank Herbert has the Reverend mother tell Paul: > “Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.” To me, this quite really captures the most likely immediate negative of a huge AGI breakthrough. Not that it'll rise up like the robots in The Matrix movies... but rather simp…

> most likely immediate negative of a huge AGI breakthrough.

I mean if the machines are generally intelligent in the human sense and unaligned with human interests I'm assuming that the mega-corporation would be its own slave to the machine too. The machine would give the mega-corporation more power, simply because that's the number one way to increase the power of the machine. If super intelligence is possible, it seems that a greedy power hungry corporation would gladly create it to gain more power, and then lose control of the situation.

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Post by recuter »

mullingitover wrote: post #39

I wonder if this kind of intelligent tutoring could be the answer to Bloom's Two Sigma Problem. The limiting factor with that problem was that not everyone can afford a personal tutor. Having an AI tutor that can breeze through the SAT seems like it should give every student a major boost.

A tutor doesn't just imply parents who can afford one but also who care enough to do so in the first place and see the value of an education.

I think you'd find that even by the sat-prep age the actual limiting factor for many (most?) of the tutor-less is a fate-accompli attitude towards their path in life.

Might as well turn on the chat bots at the cradle. Ah, and make sure everybody gets the same quality AI to parent them for it to be egalitarian.

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Post by nostromo123 »

CuriouslyC wrote: post #47
Sol- wrote: post #10

Given that learning will probably soon not be required anymore to live a successful life (AIs will do everything better than you), I guess such learning-as-a-hobby apps will be the remaining niche to entertain the humans on basic income. I wonder how many people will actually make use of it, though, and how many are instead content with being wireheaded by the various AI-based content apps that will appear, full with…

Learning is absolutely going to be required, we are just going to need to spend more time learning patterns and motifs rather than lots of facts. Learning facts and trivia was already devalued by everyone having a hyper-encyclopedia in their pockets, this will just extend that. Knowledge of patterns and motifs in domains of information will let you work together with the machines in a way that an untrained person wil…

"Learning facts and trivia was already devalued by everyone having a hyper-encyclopedia in their pockets, this will just extend that."

I hope you don't end up having surgery done by a doctor who has to check a "hyper- encyclopedia" in his pocket because learning facts is supposedly obsolete...

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