At this point I won't be surprised if over the next few weeks and months hacker news is going to be full {insert org here} integrates GPT-4.
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I had a similar reply in a separate thread, but human-to-human interaction is extremely important for young children. Teachers teach much more than school subjects in the classroom - they teach how to behave, how to ask for help, how to interact with others, etc. I often feel like teachers of young children teach them how to be "human". I think as people age they can probably rely more on Khan Academy, etc. Maybe thi…
> teach how to behave, how to ask for help, how to interact with others, etc. I often feel like teachers of young children teach them how to be "human". Isn't that the job description of parents and/or day care?
Yes, but at that age it's important to be taught those things and be socialized through all aspects of life. You can kind of think of it like learning a language - you learn it faster when you're fulling enveloped in it.
It's easy for parents to miss things that a public school teacher with an education degree would not.
Also, children can be taught all of that by their parents and through day care, but still fail to do what they've been taught in a school setting. It's important for teachers to teach those things or reinforce those teachings.
I highly recommend asking teachers of young children about this, or looking into what education materials teachers are trained on. Many schools have professional development days, so what a teacher knows and works with changes/updates often.
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#133What is the point of teaching children these topics, when they'll be obsolete by the time they're old enough to enter the job market?
I'm currently homeschooling two teenagers and one of the most interesting aspects for me is learning all the material that I 'supposedly learned' way back when I was in high school.
I graduated, went to a great university, and yet virtually all of the stuff that we are learning in the current HS curriculum is new to me despite my having taken the same classes. I honestly don't know how I graduated high school, except to consider that I was very good at parroting back recently received information.
Most of what students are learning will be obsolete by the time they enter the job market, but on the plus side they will have forgotten it anyway. The most important thing from my perspective is ensuring that those topics don't use up too much of their time as I think most intelligent people are able to acquire the knowledge and skills they need as they come to need it.
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#134GPT-4 definitely seems to be doing better on a lot of benchmarks and that's impressive. But it still hallucinates facts and I don't think anyone really has a good understanding of when and how that happens. Given that, is it really a good idea to be positioning this model as some kind of factual authority figure?
Human teachers make mistakes too - perhaps even at higher rates than GPT in some cases.
Instead of isolating a single factor of hallucinations I think you have to also consider the cost and experience quality and make a more holistic judgement on whether these models are good or bad.
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#136Am I the only one somewhat alarmed that we are choosing to rely on AIs that are vulnerable to hallucinations so much? Personally I rather have a more limited but reliable tool than a more powerful but unreliable one.
Firstly, the unreliability may not be permanent, and we may improve the AI accuracy in the future. Secondly, we need to figure out what works and what not, and we're in the middle of such phase. Finally, there is no need to be alarmed, even with hallucinations, the amount of advanced (and reliable) knowledge provided by the AI vastly counterbalances the small mistakes. The elitist mindset needs to die, let's give acc…
> Firstly, the unreliability may not be permanent, and we may improve the AI accuracy in the future.
How about we fix the unreliability first and not put the cart before the horse.
> The elitist mindset needs to die, let's give access to advanced knowledge to everybody and stop putting it behind some unreachable walls.
What are you talking about? We have high quality university courses on the internet for free. We have things like the Khan Academy and similar sites. How is advanced knowledge behind unreachable walls?
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>it's not for every student (at least not yet!) >Donation required after chosen from waitlist So, it's for rich ones?
I frequently find myself in the middle of many things, one of them is that although I oppose the grotesque plunder of the public and citizens of countries by neo-aristocrats claiming to do one thing or another amidst blatant lies of social welfare, I also object to slavery and therefore cannot condone that everything should be free since people like being compensated for their work, and not by being indentured and fo…
Which is fine, but don't call it a donation.
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#138The cynic in me wonders if "AI" has realized that the most efficient way to take over the world is to teach the next generation to be dependent on it for learning.
Replace "AI" with "powerful institutions" and you hit it on the head. Maybe "AI" should stand for "augmented institutions". Maybe you'd be interested in Paulo Freire's book "The Pedagogy of the Oppressed"?
Or the educational history of the daughters of the confederacy:
https://www.facingsouth.org/2019/04/twisted-sources-how-conf...
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#139Am I the only one somewhat alarmed that we are choosing to rely on AIs that are vulnerable to hallucinations so much? Personally I rather have a more limited but reliable tool than a more powerful but unreliable one.
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I don't think this is such a problem if it is teaching calc-3 and stays on topic. If it's teaching humanities I can see there would be more of an issue.
It will start with the "areas we can all agree on" and then scope creep will occur. This is the safest prediction I feel I've ever made.
Who is "we all"? For instance, the US is 5% of the worlds population. What we call the west is 20% of the global population? Not even to a quarter of it. Most of the population is outside the west. And, within the west there are a number of topics that people don't agree on which are more base.
The world is very diverse.