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Khan Academy integrates GPT-4 as every student’s customized tutor

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Am I the only one somewhat alarmed that we are choosing to rely on AIs that are vulnerable to hallucinations so much? Personally I rather have a more limited but reliable tool than a more powerful but unreliable one.

Firstly, the unreliability may not be permanent, and we may improve the AI accuracy in the future. Secondly, we need to figure out what works and what not, and we're in the middle of such phase. Finally, there is no need to be alarmed, even with hallucinations, the amount of advanced (and reliable) knowledge provided by the AI vastly counterbalances the small mistakes. The elitist mindset needs to die, let's give access to advanced knowledge to everybody and stop putting it behind some unreachable walls.

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Reminds me of that science fiction story by Ray Bradbury called the veldt... Computers raise the kids

You get the full experience reading that story if you have deadmau5's the veldt playing in the background as well

It's very upsetting that deadmau5 hasn't released an instrumental version of this song.

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I’m sitting on the couch with my new grandson. He’s six months old. What is school going to look like for him over the course of his education? Should be interesting.

My daughter is in 2nd grade and math is her favorite subject. I liked math too. I've looked forward to helping her learn more advance math through the years, but a doubt has entered my mind; will I have any reason to help her?

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Highly recommend the Neal Stephenson book The Diamond Age: Or, A Young Lady's Illustrated Primer , for an interesting exploration of a custom AI tutor for each student. In that book, students have a "magic book" that teaches them lessons in a story form while encouraging certain life paths. It's pretty fascinating to consider the implications and whether that's something we'll want, bc it may soon be possible.

Khan Academy's integration of GPT-4 already steers students towards particular modes of thought. According to the article, they want "to get students thinking deeply about the content that they’re learning" and in the examples, Khanmigo prompts students to recall information from the lesson rather than directly explaining how to solve the problem. I think what Khan Academy has done here is desirable, but just as Step…

> Khanmigo is enforcing Khan Academy's values

Every teacher does that, sometimes intentionally and sometimes not.

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I've tutored people at times. A good tutor needs to understand the subject very well, so they can not only understand the right answer but also figure out why the student is coming to the wrong answer. I personally think that assigning GPT as a "tutor" is devaluing the real skill involved in tutoring and I doubt it will work out.

In my brief asking ChatGPT question and to rephrase/clarify, it seems at least as good as the average tutor/teacher/TA which for me has been marginally better than warm body rephrasing the theories and working through textbook problems in front of you.

And in time, much better. To the point of raising the standard of education for all of humanity with access to the internet. I'd count on it "working out".

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Given that learning will probably soon not be required anymore to live a successful life (AIs will do everything better than you), I guess such learning-as-a-hobby apps will be the remaining niche to entertain the humans on basic income. I wonder how many people will actually make use of it, though, and how many are instead content with being wireheaded by the various AI-based content apps that will appear, full with…

Learning is absolutely going to be required, we are just going to need to spend more time learning patterns and motifs rather than lots of facts. Learning facts and trivia was already devalued by everyone having a hyper-encyclopedia in their pockets, this will just extend that. Knowledge of patterns and motifs in domains of information will let you work together with the machines in a way that an untrained person wil…

I admire your optimism if you think that a human in the loop will add any value. Other than for humoring/entertaining the human, of course, which is what I meant with learning-as-a-hobby.

Also, I'm not educator or very knowledgeable about the theory of learning, but I can imagine that "learning facts and trivia" is to some extent a necessity for exercising our brains when we are young. Of course, learning patterns and theories is the end goal, but some rote learning may be necessary on the way.

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Highly recommend the Neal Stephenson book The Diamond Age: Or, A Young Lady's Illustrated Primer , for an interesting exploration of a custom AI tutor for each student. In that book, students have a "magic book" that teaches them lessons in a story form while encouraging certain life paths. It's pretty fascinating to consider the implications and whether that's something we'll want, bc it may soon be possible.

For younger readers Monica Hughes' classic "Devil on my back" is more explicitly about a society where those who can interface with the web via computers installed into them become higher caste and those who cannot become lower caste, resulting in a revolution. Definitely aimed at a younger audience than Stephenson.

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The cynic in me wonders if "AI" has realized that the most efficient way to take over the world is to teach the next generation to be dependent on it for learning.

Replace "AI" with "powerful institutions" and you hit it on the head. Maybe "AI" should stand for "augmented institutions". Maybe you'd be interested in Paulo Freire's book "The Pedagogy of the Oppressed"?

Dune touched on this topic in 1965.

Frank Herbert has the Reverend mother tell Paul:

> “Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.”

To me, this quite really captures the most likely immediate negative of a huge AGI breakthrough. Not that it'll rise up like the robots in The Matrix movies... but rather simply having it owned and controlled by an American mega-corporation or a state actor... quietly influencing everything and everyone behind the scenes.

There is no way I can imagine to define true neutrality. You need to make value judgements. Everyone has their own set of values they judge the world with.

There is no way I'm aware of to completely avoid bias. Ultimately, it has to be up to someone to define what bias and neutrality both mean.

There is no algorithm for "truth". As soon as you stray outside of extremely well-defined systems like math and physics, ambiguity enters the equation and value judgements need to be made. Who will make those value judgements?

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This is why it doesn't matter if AI lets students cheat on essays: Essays will soon be obsolete — not just for students, but for everyone.

The two main purposes of an essay are to teach others about something in your head, and to develop and refine such ideas in the first place.

Very soon, it'll be much faster, easier, and more prolific to spread an idea by conversing with an AI about it and letting it go off and talk to others about it. If some of those people have interesting feedback, questions, or find a flaw, the AI can distill it all down to a time-efficient debriefing it can come back to you with. And an advanced AI makes for a great partner to bounce new ideas off and chew them over with.

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#100

I wonder if this kind of intelligent tutoring could be the answer to Bloom's Two Sigma Problem. The limiting factor with that problem was that not everyone can afford a personal tutor. Having an AI tutor that can breeze through the SAT seems like it should give every student a major boost.

Every student might get an absolute boost, but the relative gap may even widen. Consider students who can afford to use cutting edge, expensive to train/run models, vs students who can only use off the shelf, older models.
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