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Khan Academy integrates GPT-4 as every student’s customized tutor

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Re: Khan Academy integrates GPT-4 as every student’s customized tutor

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Post by wongarsu »

hoot wrote: post #37
misssocrates wrote: post #36

Can Khan Academy replace school at this point? If not, what are they missing?

I wonder what the point of school is even going to be at this point

One important function of schools is not only to offer education, but to force people to become educated. (Nearly) everyone in a society sharing some common skillsets (like writing, basic math, critical thinking etc) is hugely beneficial, and allows individuals and society at large to get long-term benefits where on their own they might have chosen short-term benefits. Though arguably that effect is strongest in the early grades.

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Post by lm28469 »

hoot wrote: post #37
misssocrates wrote: post #36

Can Khan Academy replace school at this point? If not, what are they missing?

I wonder what the point of school is even going to be at this point

What's your alternative though ?

Having kids learn on screens, play on screens and work on screens ? From kindergarten to the grave ?

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Post by henry2023 »

squidsoup wrote: post #45
hoot wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder what the point of school is even going to be at this point

School is more than pure pedagogy - learning social skills, making friends, and developing resilience are equally, if not more important.

Aren't team sports much much better at teaching those?

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jhp123 wrote: post #32

I've tutored people at times. A good tutor needs to understand the subject very well, so they can not only understand the right answer but also figure out why the student is coming to the wrong answer. I personally think that assigning GPT as a "tutor" is devaluing the real skill involved in tutoring and I doubt it will work out.

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Post by kirill5pol »

jhp123 wrote: post #32

I've tutored people at times. A good tutor needs to understand the subject very well, so they can not only understand the right answer but also figure out why the student is coming to the wrong answer. I personally think that assigning GPT as a "tutor" is devaluing the real skill involved in tutoring and I doubt it will work out.

This is something I’m working on. I think having a good understanding of the material for good explanations is doable in the near future, but the main problem is actually building a good model of what the learner knows to guide the LLM

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Post by alach11 »

mullingitover wrote: post #39

I wonder if this kind of intelligent tutoring could be the answer to Bloom's Two Sigma Problem. The limiting factor with that problem was that not everyone can afford a personal tutor. Having an AI tutor that can breeze through the SAT seems like it should give every student a major boost.

My mind went to the same place. Knowing that "the average tutored student was above 98% of the students in the control class", imagine how transformative it will be to lift the average student to the 98th percentile!

This may be the most transformative change to education since the invention of public schooling.

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Post by wongarsu »

1g0rrr wrote: post #21

Why do these tech giants receive GPT-4 access much earlier than regular seed startups? Is it fair?!

I'd assume that's because the Gates Foundation is one of the biggest financial supporters of Khan Academy, and they can reach the right ears at Microsoft and by extension OpenAI. As always, the right connections are everything

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Post by lm28469 »

henry2023 wrote: post #54
squidsoup wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

School is more than pure pedagogy - learning social skills, making friends, and developing resilience are equally, if not more important.

Aren't team sports much much better at teaching those?

These aren't mutually exclusive, if anything most (virtually all?) school have team sport classes

Also: https://www.aspeninstitute.org/blog-posts/7-charts-that-show...

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Post by cyrialize »

hoot wrote: post #37
misssocrates wrote: post #36

Can Khan Academy replace school at this point? If not, what are they missing?

I wonder what the point of school is even going to be at this point

I had a similar reply in a separate thread, but human-to-human interaction is extremely important for young children. Teachers teach much more than school subjects in the classroom - they teach how to behave, how to ask for help, how to interact with others, etc. I often feel like teachers of young children teach them how to be "human".

I think as people age they can probably rely more on Khan Academy, etc.

Maybe this will change in the future as we find better ways to teach young children with technology, but I would be apprehensive with dropping a 1st grader in front of a screen and having zero human interaction.

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