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Long Covid happens in 4% of infections

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Re: Long Covid happens in 4% of infections

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The claim is that long covid happens in 4% of infections.

The article links to a study as proof of this. The study is based on "self-reported long COVID" data.

So, once again, zero scientific evidence for long covid, only that people reported that they thought they had long covid.

Re: Long Covid happens in 4% of infections

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The claim is that long covid happens in 4% of infections. The article links to a study as proof of this. The study is based on "self-reported long COVID" data. So, once again, zero scientific evidence for long covid, only that people reported that they thought they had long covid.

If you want to look to more objective measures, since late 2021 there has been a ICD code assigned to long Covid (so it is diagnosed by a medical professional, not self report).

For example, https://www.dovepress.com/positive-predictive-value-of-the-i..., A Danish cohort of over 20k people that had a positive Covid test, 1.4% have subsequently been diagnosed with long Covid.

Now, you could continue to be really skeptical (are these really Covid related, or would these have happened absent Covid?). To say zero scientific evidence though seems to me to be sticking your head in the sand.

Re: Long Covid happens in 4% of infections

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post #5

The claim is that long covid happens in 4% of infections. The article links to a study as proof of this. The study is based on "self-reported long COVID" data. So, once again, zero scientific evidence for long covid, only that people reported that they thought they had long covid.

If you want to look to more objective measures, since late 2021 there has been a ICD code assigned to long Covid (so it is diagnosed by a medical professional, not self report). For example, https://www.dovepress.com/positive-predictive-value-of-the-i... , A Danish cohort of over 20k people that had a positive Covid test, 1.4% have subsequently been diagnosed with long Covid. Now, you could continue to be really skep…

I’m sure some post-viral syndrome characteristic of Covid exists, but a diagnostic code does not a diseass make.

A brief look through the history of those ICD and DSM codes emphasize how their are sorts of factors that go into establishing, revising, and retracting codes — political, administrative, clinical, epidemiological, etc etc

In fact, it’s normal for a code to show up as a bucket to help broadly track purported cases well before any etiological basis or scientific consensus is established. The codes are more of an input to science than an output.

Re: Long Covid happens in 4% of infections

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I wish there was more research in hearing damage caused by COVID. I've always had weaker ears, tubes as a child, frequent inner-ear infections. And COVID pushed me over the edge. 24/7 screaming tinnitus.

Not to get too personal, but how's your blood pressure? If you have a cuff, may I suggest taking a reading when it's really bothersome. FWIW, I think COVID-HBP-Tinnitus is linked somehow.

Re: Long Covid happens in 4% of infections

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I wish there was more research in hearing damage caused by COVID. I've always had weaker ears, tubes as a child, frequent inner-ear infections. And COVID pushed me over the edge. 24/7 screaming tinnitus.

Not to get too personal, but how's your blood pressure? If you have a cuff, may I suggest taking a reading when it's really bothersome. FWIW, I think COVID-HBP-Tinnitus is linked somehow.

Nothing personal about it. I wish more people shared their COVID journey.

My blood pressure is fine. When this all started I was a super healthy guy. That said, I am on ADHD medication, but regardless of whether I take them or not, the beep is there. Even if I don't take them for multiple days.

(I had hip surgery recently, so I put on some pounds).

And I'll get a cuff. Thanks for suggesting.

Re: Long Covid happens in 4% of infections

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The claim is that long covid happens in 4% of infections. The article links to a study as proof of this. The study is based on "self-reported long COVID" data. So, once again, zero scientific evidence for long covid, only that people reported that they thought they had long covid.

If you want to look to more objective measures, since late 2021 there has been a ICD code assigned to long Covid (so it is diagnosed by a medical professional, not self report). For example, https://www.dovepress.com/positive-predictive-value-of-the-i... , A Danish cohort of over 20k people that had a positive Covid test, 1.4% have subsequently been diagnosed with long Covid. Now, you could continue to be really skep…

Is there zero evidence? No, of course not. However, the amount of evidence is so ridiculously skimpy, even after multiple years of study, that at this point I have no interest in entertaining the idea.
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