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Re: Live-caption glasses let deaf people read conversations [video]

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Very cool, especially for people who lose their hearing later in life. For other deaf people it's important to remember that written english is not a form of their native sign language¹, so this would be like (because it is) reading captions in a second language. Still potentially useful but with more limitations. Not that there's necessarily a technological way around those limitations either.

¹ Afaik this applies to all other sign languages outside english too. Signed Exact English exists and probably other-language equivalents too but I've never met a native speaker.

Re: Live-caption glasses let deaf people read conversations [video]

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Very cool, especially for people who lose their hearing later in life. For other deaf people it's important to remember that written english is not a form of their native sign language¹, so this would be like (because it is) reading captions in a second language. Still potentially useful but with more limitations. Not that there's necessarily a technological way around those limitations either. ¹ Afaik this applies t…

Folks that use ASL use fingerspelling which is of course just written english, no?

https://www.lifeprint.com/asl101/fingerspelling/fingerspelli...

Re: Live-caption glasses let deaf people read conversations [video]

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Very cool, especially for people who lose their hearing later in life. For other deaf people it's important to remember that written english is not a form of their native sign language¹, so this would be like (because it is) reading captions in a second language. Still potentially useful but with more limitations. Not that there's necessarily a technological way around those limitations either. ¹ Afaik this applies t…

It is true and something more people should understand that ASL is not a signed version English, but most ASL speakers are pretty much bilingual. They are taught to read English, and most places also encourage learning to speak English, generally with speech-language pathologists, though some in the community are understandably reluctant.

Re: Live-caption glasses let deaf people read conversations [video]

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post #3

Very cool, especially for people who lose their hearing later in life. For other deaf people it's important to remember that written english is not a form of their native sign language¹, so this would be like (because it is) reading captions in a second language. Still potentially useful but with more limitations. Not that there's necessarily a technological way around those limitations either. ¹ Afaik this applies t…

Folks that use ASL use fingerspelling which is of course just written english, no? https://www.lifeprint.com/asl101/fingerspelling/fingerspelli...

I have only basic ASL and am by no means an authority. But I think between native ASL speakers its use would be very rare, mostly just to clarify an exact spelling for something that was going to be written down in english.

Native ASL speakers who are completely illiterate in english certainly exist, and I'm not sure at all if they know or use finger spelling.

Re: Live-caption glasses let deaf people read conversations [video]

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post #3

Very cool, especially for people who lose their hearing later in life. For other deaf people it's important to remember that written english is not a form of their native sign language¹, so this would be like (because it is) reading captions in a second language. Still potentially useful but with more limitations. Not that there's necessarily a technological way around those limitations either. ¹ Afaik this applies t…

Folks that use ASL use fingerspelling which is of course just written english, no? https://www.lifeprint.com/asl101/fingerspelling/fingerspelli...

Fingerspelling is just a path for borrowing individual words from English. It is not a part of native ASL vocabulary or grammar; that is to say, ASL does not consist of fingerspelled English sentences.

Re: Live-caption glasses let deaf people read conversations [video]

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post #5

Very cool, especially for people who lose their hearing later in life. For other deaf people it's important to remember that written english is not a form of their native sign language¹, so this would be like (because it is) reading captions in a second language. Still potentially useful but with more limitations. Not that there's necessarily a technological way around those limitations either. ¹ Afaik this applies t…

It is true and something more people should understand that ASL is not a signed version English, but most ASL speakers are pretty much bilingual. They are taught to read English, and most places also encourage learning to speak English, generally with speech-language pathologists, though some in the community are understandably reluctant.

Right, which is why I'm pointing out the second language nature of it since a lot of people are bilingual and I think have an intuitive grasp of the difference in ease between captions in your native language and captions in your second.

Re: Live-caption glasses let deaf people read conversations [video]

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post #3

Very cool, especially for people who lose their hearing later in life. For other deaf people it's important to remember that written english is not a form of their native sign language¹, so this would be like (because it is) reading captions in a second language. Still potentially useful but with more limitations. Not that there's necessarily a technological way around those limitations either. ¹ Afaik this applies t…

Folks that use ASL use fingerspelling which is of course just written english, no? https://www.lifeprint.com/asl101/fingerspelling/fingerspelli...

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Re: Live-caption glasses let deaf people read conversations [video]

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Very cool, especially for people who lose their hearing later in life. For other deaf people it's important to remember that written english is not a form of their native sign language¹, so this would be like (because it is) reading captions in a second language. Still potentially useful but with more limitations. Not that there's necessarily a technological way around those limitations either. ¹ Afaik this applies t…

> Not that there's necessarily a technological way around those limitations either.

I can see at some point here being able to wear AR glasses that overlay hand signing over the speaker

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