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Re: AI for developers and Google Workspace

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Post by sebzim4500 »

Workaccount2 wrote: post #120
sebzim4500 wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think 'catch-up' is a fair description if Google Brain/Deepmind have until now shipped nothing and their competitors have shipped something.

When you have nothing at stake, like openAI or bing, its easy to just throw things at the wall and see what sticks. There is nothing else on the wall you could potentially knock off.

I don't see why Google is in a materially different situation with AI than Microsoft is. It's not like anyone is suggesting that Google should have shut down their search in order to launch something like this, if it fails then it joins the long line of dead products.

Re: AI for developers and Google Workspace

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Post by danaris »

paganel wrote: post #53
phphphphp wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The cashier would rather you leave them in peace than hit them with the same tiresome self-congratulatory remark they hear day in day out. Please use the self checkouts instead.

Please don't use the checkout, why should corporations worth billions and tens of billions (I guess that's what Walmart is worth) get to outsource some of their work onto their clients?

At least 9 times out of 10, the self-checkout is a better experience for me. I can scan things at my own pace, pack them in my bags the way I like, and listen to my D&D podcast rather than having to interact with a stranger, unless the system acts up.

As pxl97 said, I preferred being able to scan things as I shopped and not have to stop at the checkout except to pay, but the one place around here that had that discontinued it a few months ago.

We need to push back hard against the idea that automation is "stealing" people's jobs; the promise of automation has always been that of more money for less work. We need to remind everyone of that, and reverse the trend of automation simply putting more and more money in the pockets of the already-wealthy at everyone else's expense.

Re: AI for developers and Google Workspace

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Post by aver4geredditor »

DeathArrow wrote: post #140
carlycue wrote: post #5

Can't wait for Google to add ChatGPT-like features to Chrome and their suite of Web Apps so I can finally ditch Microsoft Edge with it's ChatGPT integration. The UI of Edge is god awful. It has the same issue as Explorer in Windows where Microsoft thinks showing you all UI buttons and other UI elements at once is a great idea. Microsoft can't make compelling consumer facing products to save their life.

I actually use Edge because I dislike Google having all my data and I dislike one company having control over web. Also, Edge on Android allows me to block ads.

> I dislike Google having all my data

Now Microsoft has all of your data, is it actually any better?

> I dislike one company having control over web.

Edge is also based on Chromium, developed and controlled by Google

> Edge on Android allows me to block ads.

You could try Brave (also Chromium-based) or Firefox (Gecko-based) with uBlock Origin, both will block ads and tracking

Re: AI for developers and Google Workspace

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Post by DeathArrow »

RobotToaster wrote: post #124
DeathArrow wrote: post #100

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>with the end state surely being that both sides of an email exchange are ML models churning away at each other One can just hope that the ML entities won't start insulting each other. :)

They'll just start getting progressively more passive aggressive. "Per my last e-mail"

Until they escalate to ML Manager.

Re: AI for developers and Google Workspace

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Post by Veen »

jon-wood wrote: post #4

> So if you’re a manager onboarding a new employee, Workspace saves you the time and effort involved in writing that first welcome email. If you really can't be bothered to write the welcome email maybe just don't, rather than throwing some ML generated drivel as the first impression a new hire gets of your management. The direction this is going in is so focused on automating away the hassle of email, with the end s…

In an ideal world, it would be lovely if managers wrote copperplate welcome notes on the finest perfumed paper, but they don't. They copy and paste a template or use a tool like Text Expander. This just makes the process slightly more convenient.

Re: AI for developers and Google Workspace

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Post by scottyah »

indymike wrote: post #90
Swizec wrote: post #79

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Less frequent than that and people start forgetting the gripes and inconveniences they need help with. Managers are supposed to work on the system, at least in theory. 1on1’s are for the manager like server metrics are for the SRE. An early warning system of future problems. Ideally you can fix issues before the problem blows up into an alarm.

> 1on1’s are for the manager like server metrics are for the SRE. I'm not sure that is accurate. As a manager, I have a bunch of production metrics on my people. I can tell who's getting work done, who isn't, who has high defect rates in their work, who makes fewer defects, who is positive ROI, and who is not paying their keep. Where the one on ones are useful is when they are informed by the metrics, and those conve…

This is an interesting take, and one that directly contradicts most leadership books. Are you aware of that, and how did you come upon this management style?

Re: AI for developers and Google Workspace

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Post by triceratops »

skidd0 wrote: post #77
paganel wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don't use the checkout, why should corporations worth billions and tens of billions (I guess that's what Walmart is worth) get to outsource some of their work onto their clients?

As a client, using the self-checkout is (usually) a choice I get to make. I choose to use the self-checkout because it is often faster than waiting in a line. I am thankful for the opportunity to put in my own effort in exchange for faster completion and reduced prices.

I remember reading a study somewhere that the self-checkout isn't actually faster. It feels faster because you're busy instead of passively standing in line.

Re: AI for developers and Google Workspace

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Post by rch »

Buttons840 wrote: post #32
topicseed wrote: post #12

This video published just now is incredible — https://youtu.be/6DaJVZBXETE Not sure though if it's mostly stuff that's being beta tested as we speak, or stuff that's not even built at all as of yet.

The video is very focused on first order effects. A middle manager automates all their work by writing a few sentences; they produce a "brief" by giving a one sentence input to the AI, doubtless imagining that other humans will carefully read their brief, quietly nodding to themselves and considering every sentence, with passing thoughts about how competent the middle manager is. In truth, the middle manager will soo…

> For a brief time they will work

The generated 'thank you for your leadership' message was amusing. If it's all fake, then what's the point?

Re: AI for developers and Google Workspace

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Post by scottyah »

pxtail wrote: post #127
mabbo wrote: post #48

If I'm following this all here... We're going to have AI help us generate long pieces of text from very small blurbs of information. Then the reader is going to have AI read the long pieces of text, and condense it down into just small blurbs of information. Will my self-driving car also take unneeded detours through pretty places, making it take longer to get where I'm going?

Well, that google post probably was written with the help of AI and itself looks like it could benefit from keypoints extraction service, it's full of corporate mumbojumbo with occasional "Select developers can access", "stay tuned for our waitlist soon", "to testers in the coming weeks.", "more to come in the weeks and months ahead." In general, very low energy and conservative compared to bold MS moves

At least somebody is trying to get it right before they ship
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