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AI for developers and Google Workspace

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Re: AI for developers and Google Workspace

#132
post #4

> So if you’re a manager onboarding a new employee, Workspace saves you the time and effort involved in writing that first welcome email. If you really can't be bothered to write the welcome email maybe just don't, rather than throwing some ML generated drivel as the first impression a new hire gets of your management. The direction this is going in is so focused on automating away the hassle of email, with the end s…

Maybe the manager AI and Employee AI can generate each other responses and the actual humans can have a 1:1 free of the formalities?

Humans are amazing in breaking the system for convenience and profit.

Re: AI for developers and Google Workspace

#133
post #48

If I'm following this all here... We're going to have AI help us generate long pieces of text from very small blurbs of information. Then the reader is going to have AI read the long pieces of text, and condense it down into just small blurbs of information. Will my self-driving car also take unneeded detours through pretty places, making it take longer to get where I'm going?

I wonder if they will let the AI on the receiving end access the original text that the sender wrote to get better results. Presumably Google will store the pre-BS message.

Re: AI for developers and Google Workspace

#134

This video published just now is incredible — https://youtu.be/6DaJVZBXETE Not sure though if it's mostly stuff that's being beta tested as we speak, or stuff that's not even built at all as of yet.

This video probably had functionality representing 10% of the latest YC batch. Not mocking. This is a really hard space. You can start a whole company and build a product and overnight goog/msft/openai can tweak an existing product or API to make you obsolete. I'm sure some folks will figure out moats eventually... Always rooting for the upstarts over the incumbents.

Yeah but let's wait and see if it actually ends up being any good. Also, you could use a similar argument to say that Feedly has no reason to exist while Google Reader was better, but we all know how that ended.

Re: AI for developers and Google Workspace

#135
post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 1on1’s are for the manager like server metrics are for the SRE. I'm not sure that is accurate. As a manager, I have a bunch of production metrics on my people. I can tell who's getting work done, who isn't, who has high defect rates in their work, who makes fewer defects, who is positive ROI, and who is not paying their keep. Where the one on ones are useful is when they are informed by the metrics, and those conve…

Ok sure but there’s more to people than raw output numbers. Where do you get info on how they’re doing as people? Whether they’re pulling 12 hour days and that’s why the output looks good or they’re happy as a clam living their best life and that’s why output is great? Sometimes you gotta kick people to go take a vacation lest their mind/body takes an unplanned vacation for them. Even if the raw numbers are looking g…

Longtime manager of technical people here and can confirm the "oh yeah one more thing" is where so much of the really good stuff comes up.

No matter how explicitly you state it, ask for it, overcommunicate that you're approachable even if seemingly busy... people are averse to the impression that they're interrupting their management even when they have something important to discuss. When you create the space and have even that quick 10 to 15 minute chat every couple of weeks, you're creating space for your people to have your attention without worrying about getting your attention. And people often take advantage of that path of least resistance.

So many of the most important conversations to have with the team are less about their output and more about things they've got going on or need to know _despite_ their output. All the standard sprint metrics are just one piece of the puzzle.

Re: AI for developers and Google Workspace

#136
post #48

If I'm following this all here... We're going to have AI help us generate long pieces of text from very small blurbs of information. Then the reader is going to have AI read the long pieces of text, and condense it down into just small blurbs of information. Will my self-driving car also take unneeded detours through pretty places, making it take longer to get where I'm going?

>Will my self-driving car also take unneeded detours through pretty places, making it take longer to get where I'm going?

No, but it may take a detour through the local McDonalds drive through because they sponsor the self driving car company.

Re: AI for developers and Google Workspace

#137
Such an uninspired use of the term. Google is so used to spreading SEO , now they want to choke every office with well-written noise. This is using AI to make me waste more time, i don't want that

Instead i want

- Intuitive interfaces to respond to the email with a few clicks and a short laconic email (I don't want to waste other people's time)

- Specialized text generators for legal purposes, which create provably verifiable and consistent documents

- Expert systems that doctors can use and trust

[AI: Expand this to a 70-page diatribe]

Re: AI for developers and Google Workspace

#138

Prompting an AI for 5 seconds to write a bunch of paragraphs that your human counterpart has to then read and think through is incredibly disrespectful of their time. AI assistants that summarize and enrich information for you, fine. That actually saves time. But this feeding of generative output to humans is way off the mark. It feels like the product people are not sitting down to think what they're doing and just…

But the recipient doesn't have to read and think through it, they can just have the same AI summarise the email. Google could even store the original prompt and use it as context for the summariser.

Re: AI for developers and Google Workspace

#139
post #48

If I'm following this all here... We're going to have AI help us generate long pieces of text from very small blurbs of information. Then the reader is going to have AI read the long pieces of text, and condense it down into just small blurbs of information. Will my self-driving car also take unneeded detours through pretty places, making it take longer to get where I'm going?

It's more than that. The initial blurbs don't contain enough information, but with context you can make solid guesses about what should go in.

So it's

* small explanation

* initial proposal of what you probably want

* fixes and approval

Not really any different than asking a person to do it for you.

You don't tell your car/mapping software the exact route you want, you tell it where you want to go and then review the proposed plan, and that's with a very restricted setup (exact destination, limited routes).

Edit

More importantly, short messages that convey everything you want with the right tone are hard. Taking my mashed thoughts and converting them to easier to understand prose is a benefit even if it's longer.

Just like a larger function can be better than a code-golfed one. It's longer but it doesn't take longer to read.

Re: AI for developers and Google Workspace

#140
post #5

Can't wait for Google to add ChatGPT-like features to Chrome and their suite of Web Apps so I can finally ditch Microsoft Edge with it's ChatGPT integration. The UI of Edge is god awful. It has the same issue as Explorer in Windows where Microsoft thinks showing you all UI buttons and other UI elements at once is a great idea. Microsoft can't make compelling consumer facing products to save their life.

I actually use Edge because I dislike Google having all my data and I dislike one company having control over web.

Also, Edge on Android allows me to block ads.

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