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Re: AI for developers and Google Workspace

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Post by topicseed »

IanCal wrote: post #94

> Starting today, we’re making an efficient model available in terms of size and capabilities, Excellent! goes through the terrible UI of google cloud console Nothing there. I see it's not actually today it's a sometime soon with some people in a private preview. Any info on what model size they're actually releasing? Time to try the demo they showed in google docs. > Now, we’re excited to take the next step and brin…

Google needs to nail their launches better... We're all tired of Google Forms demos and access...

Re: AI for developers and Google Workspace

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Post by cloudking »

Ozzie_osman wrote: post #115
topicseed wrote: post #12

This video published just now is incredible — https://youtu.be/6DaJVZBXETE Not sure though if it's mostly stuff that's being beta tested as we speak, or stuff that's not even built at all as of yet.

This video probably had functionality representing 10% of the latest YC batch. Not mocking. This is a really hard space. You can start a whole company and build a product and overnight goog/msft/openai can tweak an existing product or API to make you obsolete. I'm sure some folks will figure out moats eventually... Always rooting for the upstarts over the incumbents.

Yeah turns out launching a UI wrapper around a clever prompt doesn't give you much leverage against the big players.

Seems like the opportunity is applying LLMs in the background to accomplish previously difficult tasks, as opposed to just building text generator tools.

Re: AI for developers and Google Workspace

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Post by paxys »

I really hope the big take away from such developments is that if an AI can rattle out fancy-sounding reports and slide decks in seconds then there was never any value in such content to begin with. It was and still is corporate busy work. Maybe instead of using a text model to convert 5 bullet points into a 3-page report, we should just share the bullet points? But hey they also sell you an AI that summarizes this report back into bullet points so you don't have to read it.

Re: AI for developers and Google Workspace

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Post by RobotToaster »

DeathArrow wrote: post #100
jon-wood wrote: post #4

> So if you’re a manager onboarding a new employee, Workspace saves you the time and effort involved in writing that first welcome email. If you really can't be bothered to write the welcome email maybe just don't, rather than throwing some ML generated drivel as the first impression a new hire gets of your management. The direction this is going in is so focused on automating away the hassle of email, with the end s…

>with the end state surely being that both sides of an email exchange are ML models churning away at each other One can just hope that the ML entities won't start insulting each other. :)

They'll just start getting progressively more passive aggressive. "Per my last e-mail"

Re: AI for developers and Google Workspace

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Post by pirsquare »

hdivider wrote: post #87

What I find regrettable is how GCP's startup program seems to be entirely geared towards VC-fuelled startups for the higher tiers. Compare with Microsoft for Startups, which isn't seen as hip and edgy but can get you like $5k+$25k in Azure credits (and some OpenAI credits) without having to go the VC route. Seems more entrepreneurial to me. Venture-backed is just not the right path for everyone.

Just go with AWS or Azure. Google Clown Platform is okay until you need to have any form of support.

I'm like you, bootstrapper. Went with GCP for 4 yrs until they shutdown my production servers last fri.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35133917

Re: AI for developers and Google Workspace

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Post by pxtail »

mabbo wrote: post #48

If I'm following this all here... We're going to have AI help us generate long pieces of text from very small blurbs of information. Then the reader is going to have AI read the long pieces of text, and condense it down into just small blurbs of information. Will my self-driving car also take unneeded detours through pretty places, making it take longer to get where I'm going?

Well, that google post probably was written with the help of AI and itself looks like it could benefit from keypoints extraction service, it's full of corporate mumbojumbo with occasional "Select developers can access", "stay tuned for our waitlist soon", "to testers in the coming weeks.", "more to come in the weeks and months ahead." In general, very low energy and conservative compared to bold MS moves

Re: AI for developers and Google Workspace

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Post by hs86 »

mabbo wrote: post #48

If I'm following this all here... We're going to have AI help us generate long pieces of text from very small blurbs of information. Then the reader is going to have AI read the long pieces of text, and condense it down into just small blurbs of information. Will my self-driving car also take unneeded detours through pretty places, making it take longer to get where I'm going?

It looks like these AI features are going to add some padding to our messages, and the other end needs AI to undo it in order to save their sanity.

Just look at the "I'm on it" example from their announcement video and what nonsense their AI makes out of it: https://youtu.be/6DaJVZBXETE?t=31

Re: AI for developers and Google Workspace

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Post by betteryet »

Prompting an AI for 5 seconds to write a bunch of paragraphs that your human counterpart has to then read and think through is incredibly disrespectful of their time.

AI assistants that summarize and enrich information for you, fine. That actually saves time. But this feeding of generative output to humans is way off the mark. It feels like the product people are not sitting down to think what they're doing and just riding the GPT hype wave.

Re: AI for developers and Google Workspace

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Post by sebzim4500 »

ren_engineer wrote: post #84
mabbo wrote: post #48

If I'm following this all here... We're going to have AI help us generate long pieces of text from very small blurbs of information. Then the reader is going to have AI read the long pieces of text, and condense it down into just small blurbs of information. Will my self-driving car also take unneeded detours through pretty places, making it take longer to get where I'm going?

Google is also effectively giving up on Search if they are willing to help people generate more SEO spam at scale by directly providing AI text generation in Docs. OpenAI/Microsoft shook them up so hard that they are doing stuff that is most likely self-destructive long term

Presumably any other search engine will be just as badly hit as Google is, so this won't make people move away.
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