Over 100 kids illegally employed in hazardous jobs, contractor pays $1.5M fine

Post by foogazi » Mon, Mar 13, 2023, 9:54 PM UTC

Tangurena2 wrote: post #91

nostromo wrote: post #21

There are millions of undocumented workers in the US using fake identities to get jobs. Both major parties support this system. Some Republican interests enjoy the access to dirt-cheap labor. Some Democratic interests want immigrants to be able to find jobs despite it being illegal to employ them. So we end up with a system where employers have no easy way to verify that an employee is who they say they are and has a…

Back in 2005/2006, there were a number of raids focusing on meat packing plants in the midwest. The investigation started when a routine check of one Immigration employee turned out that she was working simultaneously (well, her name & SSN were) at more than 50 places (and the IRS wanted about $200k in unpaid income taxes). Much of identity theft is focused on the Hispanic names & SSN because those are the ones that…

Post by foogazi » Mon, Mar 13, 2023, 10:03 PM UTC

marcusverus wrote: post #110

andsoitis wrote: post #81

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> Both major parties support this system. Can this also be more simply stated: Americans support this.

No need to speculate, there's a lot of polling data on this. Broadly speaking, Americans want A) work visas for immigrants who're here now (75% agree), B) immigration status checks by employers (84% agree), and C) stopping illegal immigration immediately (77%+ agree). A) Would you favor or oppose each of the following as part of legislation to address the issue of illegal immigration? How about -- Expanding the numbe…

Post by foogazi » Mon, Mar 13, 2023, 10:11 PM UTC

dsfyu404ed wrote: post #58

I used to do this sort of overnight cleaning but in medical. Based on my experience I would be very surprised if the overwhelming majority of these kids weren't a) immigrants and b) working the same shift least one of their parents. I wouldn't say it was typical to have teenagers around but when you saw one it almost always turned out that they carpool with a parent even if they didn't necessarily work in proximity t…

Post by throw93 » Mon, Mar 13, 2023, 11:27 PM UTC

roenxi wrote: post #142

throw93 wrote: post #93

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The age of the kids was in their system. So the children did not lie about their age. It’s weird to defend the company that knowingly illegally employs kids in hazardous job and instead doubt the govt agency that brings this problem to light. > The children in question are already violating local labour laws; No they aren’t. Their age was in company’s system and company ignored it. Also they are “children”. You expec…

> The age of the kids was in their system. Oh, I missed that. I thought they meant that the company had ignored the investigators flagging that there were minors employed. Yeah that is pretty bad. Although I maintain there are going to be a lot more than 100 children illegally employed as cleaners in the US. Not everyone is going to be stupid enough to keep good records like that. > Software development is not a haza…

Post by nightpool » Tue, Mar 14, 2023, 12:39 AM UTC

Ancapistani wrote: post #104

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #71

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RealID was supposed to curtail this. They certainly made it hard enough for real citizens to get ID.

I don't know about Wisconsin, but in my state RealID is entirely optional. When you get a driver's license (or state ID/"Non-driver's license") you have the option to have your fingerprints taken to receive a RealID compliant ID, or not, in which case your ID is valid for only state purposes. I'm a natural-born US citizen, and I opted not to get a RealID-compliant state ID. I have no need for it. I use my driver's li…