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Re: Things I learned after getting users

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> when the site first got a surge of users from hacker news, there was one poster in particular who came to the site, registered a bunch of offensive, racist usernames and proceeded to post and create threads that were just full of dumb slurs. this was definitely a learning experience because i had to act quickly, so i tried a bunch of different methods to get rid of him. it's sad that people like this exist in the w…

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Re: Things I learned after getting users

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post #28

> some users have suggested pretty smart features that i've since implemented, like this back-to-top button to quickly get back to the top of the page To me all position:fixed elements (headers, footers, this back-to-top button, etc) feel like a kind of annoying dirt on the screen. Their absence is a big part of why I love the web 1.0 aesthetic.

My god yes. There is literally a key on a full keyboard dedicated to this function (Home), smaller keyboards have a chord for it (like Fn-Up), and "mobile" touchscreen UI has a global mechanism for this (on iOS: touching the status bar)... to plop down a position:fixed button on top of the content to make it even easier to access this feature that is already extremely easy to access is just gratuitous.

Does Android have this? I had an Android phone for some time and the thing I missed most was the back-to-top shortcut

Re: Things I learned after getting users

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post #4

> when the site first got a surge of users from hacker news, there was one poster in particular who came to the site, registered a bunch of offensive, racist usernames and proceeded to post and create threads that were just full of dumb slurs. this was definitely a learning experience because i had to act quickly, so i tried a bunch of different methods to get rid of him. it's sad that people like this exist in the w…

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Re: Things I learned after getting users

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Man, on the abuse front—it’s amazing the lengths that people will go through to put spam on the web. There are apparently canned solutions for pushing stuff to any Mediawiki site, although I found that a really stupid captcha¹ was enough to bring that down almost to zero, but early on with rejectionwiki, I had the same sort of chronic abuser things happening that are described in the article. ⸻ 1. Basically a set of…

> Basically a set of really obvious questions, like “Who wrote Hamlet?” and what’s “Shakespeare’s first name?” that any writer (for whom the site is targeted) should be able to answer. Given that ChatGPT exists now, I assume these questions will need to be replaced with something harder to automate.

Given that the spammers seem to use some sort of canned software, it might have been enough to figure out how to change one or two internal URLs in MediaWiki, actually.

Re: Things I learned after getting users

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post #28

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My god yes. There is literally a key on a full keyboard dedicated to this function (Home), smaller keyboards have a chord for it (like Fn-Up), and "mobile" touchscreen UI has a global mechanism for this (on iOS: touching the status bar)... to plop down a position:fixed button on top of the content to make it even easier to access this feature that is already extremely easy to access is just gratuitous.

Does Android have this? I had an Android phone for some time and the thing I missed most was the back-to-top shortcut

Android doesn’t have this, and I missed it at first as well, but the scroll acceleration is so fast (much faster than on iOS) that you can nevertheless scroll to the top very quickly.

Re: Things I learned after getting users

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post #16

> some users have suggested pretty smart features that i've since implemented, like this back-to-top button to quickly get back to the top of the page To me all position:fixed elements (headers, footers, this back-to-top button, etc) feel like a kind of annoying dirt on the screen. Their absence is a big part of why I love the web 1.0 aesthetic.

Me too, but I still added a table of contents button on my long, structured articles. It's very helpful in my opinion.

Wikipedia does this now, and I find it annoying, in particular the changing “current section” highlighting, and the fact that it hides when the browser window is a bit narrower. I’d rather press Home to get to the TOC again when it scrolled off.

Re: Things I learned after getting users

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post #30

"this is mostly because i relied on a SQL ORM which in short is a tool that makes writing SQL easier to pick up and faster to develop. the biggest downside is that it might execute 50 queries to your database to get a list of information, when it probably only needs 1, which will cause slowdown." I appreciate this honesty. Listen to this old man's advise: learn SQL properly. It's not that hard. Focus on it for a few…

These days I build applications that actually use SQL.

Typically a single statement to get the job done for any query.

Re: Things I learned after getting users

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Basically a set of really obvious questions, like “Who wrote Hamlet?” and what’s “Shakespeare’s first name?” that any writer (for whom the site is targeted) should be able to answer. Given that ChatGPT exists now, I assume these questions will need to be replaced with something harder to automate.

ChatGPT would be an extremely expensive way to answer these questions.

At MOST that is a 100 token prompt/response, so that is like $0.0002 to answer with gpt-turbo. Hardly going to break the bank...

Re: Things I learned after getting users

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Basically a set of really obvious questions, like “Who wrote Hamlet?” and what’s “Shakespeare’s first name?” that any writer (for whom the site is targeted) should be able to answer. Given that ChatGPT exists now, I assume these questions will need to be replaced with something harder to automate.

ChatGPT would be an extremely expensive way to answer these questions.

Really? I thought these types of questions would be limited. They seem hand-crafted.

If you cache the answers you're probably looking at 10 queries or so until the site admin gives up on that idea and tries something different

Re: Things I learned after getting users

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post #4

> when the site first got a surge of users from hacker news, there was one poster in particular who came to the site, registered a bunch of offensive, racist usernames and proceeded to post and create threads that were just full of dumb slurs. this was definitely a learning experience because i had to act quickly, so i tried a bunch of different methods to get rid of him. it's sad that people like this exist in the w…

> what could possibly motivate someone to spend their time doing this?

Probably being between the ages of 10-14 years old. Bartle Killer-explorer?

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