Because of financial and people resources required, availability of data etc. rest always stayed. Now I can use ChatGPT, Gpt-3/4, Whisper etc. at a reasonable cost and it is forcing rest of the industry to also "Open" up.
How 'Open' Is OpenAI, Really?
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Re: How 'Open' Is OpenAI, Really?
#22I think the article does a good job capturing the history of what happened. OpenAI started out with the intention of being a non-profit, but realized over time that it made it difficult to compete in terms of salary and hardware, so pivoted to a 'capped' for-profit. As for Microsoft, my guess is their investment was just another investment in a hot AI 'startup'. It was sheer luck, and being in the right place at the…
On the other hand, if they ended up chooses a different route, go patented everything and starts suing, then maybe it's better off for them to remove "Open" in their title just to make things more clear.
Re: How 'Open' Is OpenAI, Really?
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#24When I was a teenager, there was a local chain of record stores over here named "free record store" But guess what, you couldn't just walk in, grab some CDs and walk out without paying.
Re: How 'Open' Is OpenAI, Really?
#25I think the article does a good job capturing the history of what happened. OpenAI started out with the intention of being a non-profit, but realized over time that it made it difficult to compete in terms of salary and hardware, so pivoted to a 'capped' for-profit. As for Microsoft, my guess is their investment was just another investment in a hot AI 'startup'. It was sheer luck, and being in the right place at the…
Edit: Azure ML launched in 2015.
Re: How 'Open' Is OpenAI, Really?
#26Does it matter? Openai finally built something resembling ai. Big tech wasn’t innovating, I personally don’t care if employees at openai capture a ton of the upside
Yes.
> Openai finally built something resembling ai. Big tech wasn’t innovating, I personally don’t care if employees at openai capture a ton of the upside
And if they called themselves ClosedAI I don't think people would mind so much; it's the dishonesty that's grating.
Re: How 'Open' Is OpenAI, Really?
#27I think the article does a good job capturing the history of what happened. OpenAI started out with the intention of being a non-profit, but realized over time that it made it difficult to compete in terms of salary and hardware, so pivoted to a 'capped' for-profit. As for Microsoft, my guess is their investment was just another investment in a hot AI 'startup'. It was sheer luck, and being in the right place at the…
I don't know if I buy the whole Microsoft got lucky part. I can remember years ago seeing Azure ads pushing machine learning. Github Copilot is now almost 2 years old (since the first "tech preview" announcement). Copilot is built on OpenAI/GPT-3 just like ChatGPT... and then a few months after Copilot, they made it available on Azure's OpenAI service. This is all in 2021. So they've been working on this and collecti…
I have to give them credit, but the other side of the equation is that though they react quickly, they tend to duct-tape feature and products together. I'm thinking of how office went online yet has always lacked cohesion. Or how teams competes with zoom/slack/etc, yet is frustrating to work with.
Re: How 'Open' Is OpenAI, Really?
#28open has a number of meanings that are useful, but have been overwhelmed by the concept of open source.
but open standards used to be the meaning. "ethernet is this, here's how you talk to it, but we're not going to write the code for you" (i'm not claiming that ethernet was originally an open standard, just using that as an example of what an open standard means)
and hardware manufacturers used to include blueprints/schematics (for repair, or for interconnection, for example) and commercial software vendors would show you the source code, but at the same time, you weren't being given intellectual property rights or licenses to anything, it was just part of what was required to encourage customers to stick with the product by making it easier to fit in where it was going.
And all of this was a really useful kind of openness. Just mentioning it because when people talk about how open OpenAI is, I'm never quite sure what they're expecting (I don't mind any expectation, not judging, I just don't know)
Re: How 'Open' Is OpenAI, Really?
#29I think the article does a good job capturing the history of what happened. OpenAI started out with the intention of being a non-profit, but realized over time that it made it difficult to compete in terms of salary and hardware, so pivoted to a 'capped' for-profit. As for Microsoft, my guess is their investment was just another investment in a hot AI 'startup'. It was sheer luck, and being in the right place at the…
I hope they eventually give the word Open another meaning, for example, they can make their technology and method more open (source, maybe), and/or create a standardized platform to allow people to freely play with and extent their technology without the fear of big daddy restriction. On the other hand, if they ended up chooses a different route, go patented everything and starts suing, then maybe it's better off for…
Re: How 'Open' Is OpenAI, Really?
#30I think the article does a good job capturing the history of what happened. OpenAI started out with the intention of being a non-profit, but realized over time that it made it difficult to compete in terms of salary and hardware, so pivoted to a 'capped' for-profit. As for Microsoft, my guess is their investment was just another investment in a hot AI 'startup'. It was sheer luck, and being in the right place at the…
I hope they eventually give the word Open another meaning, for example, they can make their technology and method more open (source, maybe), and/or create a standardized platform to allow people to freely play with and extent their technology without the fear of big daddy restriction. On the other hand, if they ended up chooses a different route, go patented everything and starts suing, then maybe it's better off for…