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Ask HN: V2 – Laid off folks, are you getting hired yet?

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Re: Ask HN: V2 – Laid off folks, are you getting hired yet?

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Post by Ralo »

schwartzworld wrote: post #134
Ralo wrote: post #41

I'm attempting to enter this field at possibly the worst time, with the worst qualifications. No YOE, no degree. I do have friends in the field that may be able to help but it's far from guaranteed. Only thing I have going for me is that I have many years of non-professional programming experience and multiple great open source projects but at this point, I think my only hope is accepting anything . Any pay, any loca…

> I think my only hope is accepting anything This is the answer. Consider it a paid internship, do it for 15 month and then go make double somewhere else.

That's how I'm treating it. It seems once you get certain YOE you can be more picky. I'm already working minimum wage jobs, so this isn't a complete change of direction or life style anyways.

Re: Ask HN: V2 – Laid off folks, are you getting hired yet?

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Post by hinata08 »

kypro wrote: post #149

I'm based in the UK with ~15 years experience as a professional web developer. I lost my job early Jan and found a new role by early Feb. It was difficult though. This was the first time I've ever experience recruiters ghosting me. I hustled like crazy to find my current role and I think I got quite lucky honestly. Every time I see these threads I feel the need to remind people that no one's circumstances will be the…

congrats on finding a new job !

> Experience and geography are two very important factors in our industry.

yeah, I was wondering to what extent they mattered. Like to what extent you should be willing to relocate or wait for an open job in your area ? And to what extent you should apply for the same job, or switch to a totally new job. I've usually been very quick to relocate and to get a new job, even underpaid bc I didn't have experience.

But after just a few years, I believe I'm already paid more than if I continued on my first job. And there is a margin for progression, as the company still sees me as a beginner.

Did you have to relocated ? or to get a new job ? or you're keeping your routine in what you're already good at ?

Re: Ask HN: V2 – Laid off folks, are you getting hired yet?

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Post by endigma »

ralphc wrote: post #147
endigma wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We're a Canadian company making hiring software using Go, Svelte and Typescript. We offer fully remote positions. I'm not the founder or hiring-person, but I will reply to your emails if you ask other questions. Coincidentally, we actually make a product that aims to get rid of the whole hiring, ghosting, no-reply, 7 rounds of interviews shenanigans; which is a problem a lot of people seem to be mentioning here.

Isn't a product like this tied to the viability of the job market, as in when the job market has a downturn your potential customers are less include to buy?

I suppose? We aren't in particular for hiring in tech. We aren't doing layoffs and we aren't under VC thumbs.

Re: Ask HN: V2 – Laid off folks, are you getting hired yet?

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Post by jstx1 »

fnbr wrote: post #145
jstx1 wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are your offers mostly from startups? I want to move away from ML but this might be a bad time for it.

A mix of startups, smallish research labs (that is, smaller than Google Brain/FAIR/DeepMind), small, profitable AI companies. I focused on smaller companies as that’s what I wanted. Bunch of larger companies were hiring though.

Just saw on your profile that you were a senior research engineer at DeepMind. That might be why you’re getting showered with offers and not necessarily the state of the job market for ML.

Re: Ask HN: V2 – Laid off folks, are you getting hired yet?

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Post by p1esk »

sarang23592 wrote: post #75

Laid off in Jan (Senior Frontend Developer 7years exp) and took a few weeks off after getting laid off . I just cannot find an interview right now. I apply daily to around 5-10 jobs. It is making me question my skills as a developer. I never maintained an active github profie and seems like that was a mistake. Anyone has a remote job for frontend developer please help.

Yeah, if I needed a front end dev I’d ask to see your portfolio. And for a senior role it has to be strong.

Re: Ask HN: V2 – Laid off folks, are you getting hired yet?

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Post by hinata08 »

fnbr wrote: post #78
jfrbfbreudh wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are we talking 7 figure offers? I was under the impression that $500k packages were not uncommon for AI researchers at Google.

I was an L5, so significantly below $500k.

does this mean ppl now have 7 figure salaries over there ?

I'm should really go across the pond. I'm fed up of doing 40k in here.

Re: Ask HN: V2 – Laid off folks, are you getting hired yet?

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Post by hinata08 »

fnbr wrote: post #31

I work as an AI research engineer, so I’m having a totally different experience than the others I’m seeing here. Job market is very very strong for senior AI roles. Multiple offers that were >2x what I was making at a BigTech research lab (depending on how you value the equity). Interview process was much easier than I was expecting- mostly situational interviews (although I was referred in for those). Having said th…

> I’m having a totally different experience than the others I’m seeing here

I also feel like you have a different perspective. It's not just about the actual experience.

Some complain about how hard it was to get a job, when they just needed a few weeks or months to get one.

They were also surprised to have been turn down by some companies, which is healthy. You can't match everywhere. You're not qualified on everything. Job ads are minimalist to ambiguous, so tech teams have to do a lot of filtering to make up with what HR published. You may also want to apply outside of your comfort zone, because you don't risk anything,...

Also, some seem surprised to have to interview. While 8 is definitely too many, it makes sense to do some, when you apply for positions with experience. You're no longer graduate, they want to know about you.

I was also surprised by users who reported to have a lower wage now, which is probably still much higher than the median income in the USA

Such views don't picture a weak market, but a more realistic market. We're mostly among well paid tech industry workers here, so we can complain about the processes. But out of respect for most workers who earn up to the median wage, it's not decent to call these times a difficult job market.

I hadn't fully realise what kind of bubble the tech jobs used to be over there, before reading this thread.

Anyway, gg for getting a nice job.

Re: Ask HN: V2 – Laid off folks, are you getting hired yet?

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Post by mattmanser »

tricksforfree wrote: post #139

I just interviewed a developer for a senior level front end position and they couldn't print a 2d array to the console. They apparently worked on a large web application and wrote typescript everyday. What I've known for years, I'm finally seeing first hand: There are way too many people out there that should never have been engineers in the first place. This is a rebalancing. Those who are competent will always be h…

Sounds more like you flustered someone then got all condescending and arrogant.

Re: Ask HN: V2 – Laid off folks, are you getting hired yet?

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Post by iaaan »

endigma wrote: post #122
ericmcer wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah I think it’s important to remember that we aren’t terrible failures, but the market has shifted completely. I’m entering my second month of looking really hard (30+ applications a month) and have only had a few interviews so far. For my last job I sent out a few lazy applications in early Jan 2021 and was debating which of 3 offers I wanted to take a few weeks later. I’m a better engineer than I have ever been,…

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Hiring for what? For how much pay? lmao. You are not helping.

Re: Ask HN: V2 – Laid off folks, are you getting hired yet?

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Post by tricksforfree »

mattmanser wrote: post #158
tricksforfree wrote: post #139

I just interviewed a developer for a senior level front end position and they couldn't print a 2d array to the console. They apparently worked on a large web application and wrote typescript everyday. What I've known for years, I'm finally seeing first hand: There are way too many people out there that should never have been engineers in the first place. This is a rebalancing. Those who are competent will always be h…

Sounds more like you flustered someone then got all condescending and arrogant.

I'm sorry but if someone is trying to get a job with the title, "Software Engineer" in it and they cannot do a nested for loop (the slow O^2 solution) I don't know what to tell you other than that person is not fit for the job.

In terms of basics it's akin to "fizz buzz".

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