I'm not sure why they are so worried about illegal immigration when their plan to turn the country into a third-world dump not worth even legally immigrating to is working so well. A significant chunk of the population is in "fuel poverty", critical infrastructure such as their beloved NHS has collapsed and there are shortages of certain produce blamed on weather conditions yet no other nearby country is experiencing it.
All travelers to the UK will need pre-authorization by 2025
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#52A pity, I'd have liked to visit Scotland again. Perhaps it's just me, but when a country decides to treat me like a criminal suspect instead of a welcomed visitor I just don't want to go there anymore.
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#53The cost of the ETA has not been confirmed but it is expected to be in a similar range to those schemes. The U.S. Electronic System for Travel Authorization costs $21. The European Union is set to launch its own digital travel authorization scheme, called ETIAS, for visa-exempt nationals in 2024. It will enable travel within 30 countries. This isn't a UK thing, I expect most developed countries to adopt such things i…
as someone who has a crappy passport, I laugh at "fees are going to add up" given we regularly pay $50+ (sometimes several hundred dollars) "application fees" for 1-3 week visit visas (sometimes you get lucky with 6 month or 1 year) and often wait 2-3 weeks for our passports to come back from the embassy. If I'm planning to visit two countries in one trip, i have to plan that each embassy will hold my passport for a…
I fairly recently applied for a Finnish visa and my application was rejected because Finland closed its border for Russians while my application was processing. I paid around 50€ for the privilege of having my passport held for 3 weeks and a small note saying "we're no longer issuing tourist visas, kthxbye".
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#54'The U.K. has previously said that under current rules it does not have wholly accurate data on the number of people entering and leaving the country."
What? They can't track who comes and goes just by recording at the border now? We have computers and databases, right?
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#55> ETA > 'decision given within three days.' (so too long to book a last minute weekend trip) > may also need to take a “dynamic selfie,” > eventually require all travelers to submit fingerprint biometrics I live in France, and used to go to the UK on organised trips, schools trips, holiday camps, or with friends, for a weekend to two weeks, because it was so easy to go there ! We would go to London, to Wales, Baths,…
It is not a Brexit thing, the EU is going to make people do the same. If you ever do get a passport and attempt to travel anywhere you'll experience similar ennui. La vie, hein?
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#56> Anyone arriving at the U.K. border by air or rail without an ETA will be turned away, including if they arrive via Ireland but are not Irish or British citizens. This is contrary to eg BBC reporting which says that Irish /residents/ departing from Ireland also won’t need an ETA Edit: which makes sense, because you often arrive as a domestic passenger when arriving from Ireland, with no passport checks (except for a…
At least according to this report, arriving by road or boat does not seem to be subject to this requirement, which seems odd. AFAIK, there is a lot of traffic in both those modes between Ireland and the UK, and on ferries from multiple ports on mainland Europe.
Maybe the UK government is just really strongly aligning itself with the climate movement and wants to discourage people from taking the plane...
Re: All travelers to the UK will need pre-authorization by 2025
#57> ETA > 'decision given within three days.' (so too long to book a last minute weekend trip) > may also need to take a “dynamic selfie,” > eventually require all travelers to submit fingerprint biometrics I live in France, and used to go to the UK on organised trips, schools trips, holiday camps, or with friends, for a weekend to two weeks, because it was so easy to go there ! We would go to London, to Wales, Baths,…
It is not a Brexit thing, the EU is going to make people do the same. If you ever do get a passport and attempt to travel anywhere you'll experience similar ennui. La vie, hein?
yes, I'm ok to do this for long-haul flights.
I have my Electronic Travel Autorisation/Autorisation de voyage électronique from Canada/Canada. It's ok when you go for a full trip, not just a weekend field trip. You plan trips months before you travel, when you go on the other side of the map.
But it's not comfortable for regional destinations. Europe itself made to easy with Schengen (which is not the EU btw. Countries like Switzerland or Norway never wanted to join the EU, but at least they make it easy to visit them. They're better off on their own, but don't feel threatened when EU peons visit them)
A lot of other regional countries advertised how easy it was to go there. Especially Tunisia (where you could also go with just an ID), or Turkey. Because they wanted to be popular destinations. And it worked.
I'm interested in stats for the UK.
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yep. There is also "bad person" without scare quotes to consider.
You misread what I said above: > similar name to a "bad person" If you share the same name with someone on a watch list, you may be required to physically attend an interview at the embassy. That's a huge burden and something visa free travelers may not have had to do before.
I understood perfectly well and nonetheless a-OK with this.
It is a huge burden for me and everybody else to take off our shoes and stand in long lines over the last 25 years or so. The experience is already suboptimal, some security theatre is at play to be sure, and yet what do you actually suggest?
Perhaps you misread what I said above:
> There is also "bad person" without scare quotes to consider.
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#59All the outrage here is pretty weird considering the USA, Canada and the EU all have policies like this already
That’s not true.
The EU and Canada do not have a similar policy for US passport holders, you can travel without having to file anything in advance.
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is not a Brexit thing, the EU is going to make people do the same. If you ever do get a passport and attempt to travel anywhere you'll experience similar ennui. La vie, hein?
yes, I'm ok to do this for long-haul flights. I have my Electronic Travel Autorisation/Autorisation de voyage électronique from Canada/Canada. It's ok when you go for a full trip, not just a weekend field trip. You plan trips months before you travel, when you go on the other side of the map. But it's not comfortable for regional destinations. Europe itself made to easy with Schengen (which is not the EU btw. Countri…
> If approved, the ETA will be valid for multiple visits over two years.
Can literally go spontaneously every weekend over one hundred times in a row.