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The Evolution of Motorola Phones

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Re: The Evolution of Motorola Phones

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no mention of motorola e1000 (it was good phone with good feature set but motherboard died on me 3 time) or motorola atrix, which was first phone with dock that you could hook up screen/etc to and run ubuntu desktop from

Man, the E1000 was a fantastic phone. Extremely tough little phone too, at one point we jacked up a Toyota Landcruiser on top of it, and the case/screen didn't even scratch.

Re: The Evolution of Motorola Phones

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My brother, any time I see someone use 'normie' unironically, I automatically stop listening to what they have to say. 'smart' phones prior to the iphone were terrible from a user experience point of view.

You can pretend that average people aren't making things worse all you want. Does not take away from the truth. Internet was better before the iPhone made it easy for normies to access it.

Hi. Perhaps you and I and others can be part of making it good.

I went through a phase of seeking outrage online, and while I’m not wholly reformed, I can report that some conscious reflection and rededication of where my emotional energy goes has helped me feel better and have more fun.

A tour of your comment history find a very large proportion that might be characterized as political outrage, attacks on other commenters, or dead/flagged responses.

I don’t presume to know you or how you’re doing, but in all sincerity and interest in a fellow human and member of the technerd tribe, I might gently suggest exploring how you’re engaging here, and if another approach might accrue long term benefits.

Take care.

Re: The Evolution of Motorola Phones

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It's not talked about much, but RAZR was a skunk works program inside of Moto started by a small group of engineers independent of management. By that point the company had been largely taken over by cost cutting style management. Lean/6 Sigma was everywhere, and pretty much all research/innovation centres were being shut down. C level was incredibly incompetent. Ed Zander, the most incompetent choice of all, was app…

Seeing that the original iPhone used Infineon chips gives me the impression that Apple learned from Motorola how NOT to build mobile phones. Wondering how many Motorola employees went to work at Apple back then.

A lot did. Apple had regular recruiting events down the road from Mot HQ around that time (2004-2006), specifically to poach Mot engineers.

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I wish the CEO's had been right. Keyboards > touchscreens. The iPhone allowed normies to ruin everything. Instead of programs, we have apps. Instead of websites, we have walled gardens. Instead of bbs systems and forums, we have IG, Facebook and TikTok. Blame the normies. Edit: Your downvotes mean nothing to me. I've seen what makes you upvote.

The only problem is nobody knows how to make a useful keyboard that fits in my pocket. I hate touch screens in general, but a phone in my pocket is useful in many situations where I wouldn't bring a keyboard.

There are lots of folding keyboards available. The problem is that they are made for using on a table. Phone doesn't work well on table.

It should be possible to make keyboard the size of a phone that can be used in the hands. The problem is how to hold it, maybe the iPhone magnets would make that possible. I think the main problem is that everyone is used to using touchscreen keyboard and wouldn't think to use keyboard.

I have an ancient Stowaway Bluetooth keyboard, one of the best folding keyboards made, and I have stopped bringing it along. I found that screen keyboard is fine for small amount of typing. And if I need to do actual work, then laptop or tablet is needed.

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You can pretend that average people aren't making things worse all you want. Does not take away from the truth. Internet was better before the iPhone made it easy for normies to access it.

Hi. Perhaps you and I and others can be part of making it good. I went through a phase of seeking outrage online, and while I’m not wholly reformed, I can report that some conscious reflection and rededication of where my emotional energy goes has helped me feel better and have more fun. A tour of your comment history find a very large proportion that might be characterized as political outrage, attacks on other comm…

I'm not required to type the way you see fit. HN needs to wake up and realize that it's not "muh secret club" where everyone is required to act like some cringe ultrapolite some wannabe philosopher. Try speaking your mind sometime instead of going out of your way to be pompous. You might find you like it.

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Seeing that the original iPhone used Infineon chips gives me the impression that Apple learned from Motorola how NOT to build mobile phones. Wondering how many Motorola employees went to work at Apple back then.

A lot did. Apple had regular recruiting events down the road from Mot HQ around that time (2004-2006), specifically to poach Mot engineers.

Would love to read more about those recruiting events down the road from Motorola headquarters. This sounds like something that would have needed to be kept on the down-low.

Re: The Evolution of Motorola Phones

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I got my first phone when I joined Motorola in 1998. This was a StarTac and it was fantastic (anything would be for a first phone but its form factor was great, especially that it was fashionable to wear it on your belt)

I went through the RAZR (really cool too) and finally the Q when I left in 2008.

10 years of really great phones and a cool part of my life.

Re: The Evolution of Motorola Phones

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A lot did. Apple had regular recruiting events down the road from Mot HQ around that time (2004-2006), specifically to poach Mot engineers.

Would love to read more about those recruiting events down the road from Motorola headquarters. This sounds like something that would have needed to be kept on the down-low.

Well I went to some of them :). It was pretty funny since I knew many people there - and we even talked about it at work. Around that time (2006) it was clear Mot was going to die so everyone was either looking for a new job or trying to get laid off with a nice severance package.

Apple booked a hotel conference room down the road from the Schaumburg office and had Apple engineers there. I even met with some of the original iPhone software team. They spoke with us and took our CVs, and if they liked you, flew you to 1 Infinite Loop for interviews.

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