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All travelers to the UK will need pre-authorization by 2025

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Re: All travelers to the UK will need pre-authorization by 2025

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Post by dazc »

toxicFork wrote: post #5
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #4

>It is understood the U.K. has ambitions to eventually require all travelers to submit fingerprint biometrics ahead of travel and is working on a scheme that would see this submitted by smartphone. Wait, can they even do that? Can the government make an app that can beam the fingerprints read from the fingerprint sensor phone back to them? AFAIK the biometric data is stored in the phone's secure enclave and can never…

Technically very easy. Legally? I dunno, maybe?

I have no finger prints, worn away, I am far from unique. So, technically, I don't imagine it being that easy?

Re: All travelers to the UK will need pre-authorization by 2025

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Post by recuter »

Someone1234 wrote: post #26
recuter wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The point of it is to know way ahead of time who is coming to their shores, even at the cost of inconvenience. Quick online esta-style form, not too bad, you just have to remember to do it.

For some people it will be a "quick online form." For others, they've gone from VISA free travel to potentially a trip/interview at the embassy. Just ask anyone with a similar name to a "bad person" what their experience has been like.

So?

Re: All travelers to the UK will need pre-authorization by 2025

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Post by explaininjs »

recuter wrote: post #15
ksec wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Anyone arriving at the U.K. border by air or rail without an ETA will be turned away, including if they arrive via Ireland but are not Irish or British citizens. So anything who didn't apply an ETA will now be blocked? I thought they should at least offer an option for something like £100 to get it done at the border. But that is a lot of inconvenience for travellers.

The point of it is to know way ahead of time who is coming to their shores, even at the cost of inconvenience. Quick online esta-style form, not too bad, you just have to remember to do it.

If that was the only point, why make you pay? Colombia's "Check-MIG" is similar but free.

Re: All travelers to the UK will need pre-authorization by 2025

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Post by xg15 »

> Anyone arriving at the U.K. border by air or rail without an ETA will be turned away, including if they arrive via Ireland but are not Irish or British citizens.

How exactly is this going to work with an open border between Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland?

For that matter, wouldn't requiring an ETA for Republic of Ireland citizens to travel to Northern Ireland be a violation of the Good Friday Agreement, even independent of what happens at the border?

Re: All travelers to the UK will need pre-authorization by 2025

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Post by Someone1234 »

recuter wrote: post #32
Someone1234 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For some people it will be a "quick online form." For others, they've gone from VISA free travel to potentially a trip/interview at the embassy. Just ask anyone with a similar name to a "bad person" what their experience has been like.

So?

So, the thing I said? Are you fine with substantially more burdensome requirements as long as it doesn't impact you personally?

Re: All travelers to the UK will need pre-authorization by 2025

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Post by arp242 »

xg15 wrote: post #34

> Anyone arriving at the U.K. border by air or rail without an ETA will be turned away, including if they arrive via Ireland but are not Irish or British citizens. How exactly is this going to work with an open border between Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland? For that matter, wouldn't requiring an ETA for Republic of Ireland citizens to travel to Northern Ireland be a violation of the Good Friday Agreement, e…

The part you quoted explicitly says "but are not Irish or British citizens".

Re: All travelers to the UK will need pre-authorization by 2025

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xg15 wrote: post #34

> Anyone arriving at the U.K. border by air or rail without an ETA will be turned away, including if they arrive via Ireland but are not Irish or British citizens. How exactly is this going to work with an open border between Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland? For that matter, wouldn't requiring an ETA for Republic of Ireland citizens to travel to Northern Ireland be a violation of the Good Friday Agreement, e…

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