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First Republic Bank files 8-K – Tech only 4% of total deposits; no sector >9%

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Re: First Republic Bank files 8-K – Tech only 4% of total deposits; no sector >9%

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The main issue is no longer tech.

It’s whether or not they have HTM assets that will bring them under if they have a run on the bank. A lot of the depositors are rich Silicon Valley residents and they may get spooked and pull their money. That’s the issue in this phase of the contagion.

Re: First Republic Bank files 8-K – Tech only 4% of total deposits; no sector >9%

#12
Thank god, a single source of good news is better than none. Does anyone have an aggregate view of the LCR / NSFR metrics across U.S. banks? I'd love to see the risk trend here at a wider scale than single bank disclosures like this one.

Why? Because I'm really nervous that SVB was in no unique situation -- after all VCs / Startups share a lot of low confidence and low cash traits in common with other investors.

Re: First Republic Bank files 8-K – Tech only 4% of total deposits; no sector >9%

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I’m not super well informed about this space, but my understanding was that SVB’s issue wasn’t that its depositors were from the tech sector, but rather that it had put a ton of capital into investments that are significantly less valuable (on the open market today) now than they were a year ago due to increasing interest rates. I’m curious how the tech sector matters here specifically?

It matters because recent underperformance in the sector led to the initial deposit outflows in the first place. If you’re concentrated heavily in a single sector, you’re likely to see higher correlations in the behavior of your depositors.

Re: First Republic Bank files 8-K – Tech only 4% of total deposits; no sector >9%

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I’m not super well informed about this space, but my understanding was that SVB’s issue wasn’t that its depositors were from the tech sector, but rather that it had put a ton of capital into investments that are significantly less valuable (on the open market today) now than they were a year ago due to increasing interest rates. I’m curious how the tech sector matters here specifically?

Matt Levine reports that the reason they had to buy those low-yield investments that plummeted is because it’s tech-sector customers had too much money in the boom times. Too much deposits means they need to buy a lot of something , and in the boom times that was low-yield stuff.

I'd also like to point out that VCs were telling all their portfolio companies "Pack it in and conserve cash as you're not getting another round." That caused a lot of companies that would otherwise have put their cash into an investment vehicle to instead hold it in their accounts.

It will also be interesting to see if someone is going to wind up in jail for initiating the bank run. Someone shared confidential info that started this whole thing.

Re: First Republic Bank files 8-K – Tech only 4% of total deposits; no sector >9%

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I’m not super well informed about this space, but my understanding was that SVB’s issue wasn’t that its depositors were from the tech sector, but rather that it had put a ton of capital into investments that are significantly less valuable (on the open market today) now than they were a year ago due to increasing interest rates. I’m curious how the tech sector matters here specifically?

Read Matt Levine’s column from today. https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2023-03-10/startu...

The tech sector isn’t an issue in itself, it’s that (1) all their deposits all came in at once because it’s one sector, so there was a huge demand surge for deposit interest, leading to a supply shortfall of loans they could issue and hence kinda desperately parking the money somewhere, which ended up putting their risk balance off kilter (bonds with interest rate risk); (2) all of their depositors (aka creditors) talk to each other and listen to the same people, so bank runs happen really fast. Compare this to First Republic bank: demand for deposit interest does not surge dramatically because there is finite liquid cash needing to be deposited and so one sector getting a cash infusion comes at the cost of another. It smoothes out. Plus their customers don’t all talk to each other and behave like worst-case bank runners.

All sectors are pretty highly correlated in the cash they have on hand and how they behave with it. It would be equally risky to be a bank that only deals with oil companies. Nevertheless it offers efficiencies for acquiring new customers and new business, so banks do it.

Re: First Republic Bank files 8-K – Tech only 4% of total deposits; no sector >9%

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post #4

I’m not super well informed about this space, but my understanding was that SVB’s issue wasn’t that its depositors were from the tech sector, but rather that it had put a ton of capital into investments that are significantly less valuable (on the open market today) now than they were a year ago due to increasing interest rates. I’m curious how the tech sector matters here specifically?

The investments were long term treasuries and mortgage backed securities, yielding about 1.6%? As rates have increased, long duration treasuries and MBSes are now worth 20-30% less.

Right, that bit all makes sense. What was less clear to me (though sibling comments have since clarified) is why the depositor sector matters.

Re: First Republic Bank files 8-K – Tech only 4% of total deposits; no sector >9%

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I’m not super well informed about this space, but my understanding was that SVB’s issue wasn’t that its depositors were from the tech sector, but rather that it had put a ton of capital into investments that are significantly less valuable (on the open market today) now than they were a year ago due to increasing interest rates. I’m curious how the tech sector matters here specifically?

The tech sector has been withdrawing money in aggregate (because they continue paying payroll and rent but haven't been raising as much money recently) which increases liquidity pressure, and furthermore tech depositors are more skittish due to experience with FTX and thus prone to panic bank runs. They also have larger average account sizes, way beyond FDIC limits, which makes them more likely to need to withdraw money to protect their cash.

SVB did have some issues with losses but they likely were still solvent; the bigger issue was just a lack of liquidity and a sudden bank run - 45 billion (out of ~175 billion in deposits) was withdrawn in a single day before they ran out of liquidity.

Re: First Republic Bank files 8-K – Tech only 4% of total deposits; no sector >9%

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I’m not super well informed about this space, but my understanding was that SVB’s issue wasn’t that its depositors were from the tech sector, but rather that it had put a ton of capital into investments that are significantly less valuable (on the open market today) now than they were a year ago due to increasing interest rates. I’m curious how the tech sector matters here specifically?

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Re: First Republic Bank files 8-K – Tech only 4% of total deposits; no sector >9%

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I’m not super well informed about this space, but my understanding was that SVB’s issue wasn’t that its depositors were from the tech sector, but rather that it had put a ton of capital into investments that are significantly less valuable (on the open market today) now than they were a year ago due to increasing interest rates. I’m curious how the tech sector matters here specifically?

Why are banks even allowed to buy assets?

Every asset is a risk. Banks should have right to do exactly two things. Keep their customers saving and issue loans. There's plenty of risks even in that activity. Every other thing bank does is just piling up risk to unreasonable levels.

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