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Giving the finger is a ‘God-given right’, Canadian judge rules

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Re: Giving the finger is a ‘God-given right’, Canadian judge rules

#121

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Canada's charter of rights and freedoms isn't worth the paper it's printed on, especially in Quebec where the government actively pre-empts it (it has a clause that allows this, explaining why it's worthless) when it doesn't line up with their ideology.

Violating the Charter was one of the core arguments in this decision. So… no.

Sounds like you've got a clear understanding of the situation

Re: Giving the finger is a ‘God-given right’, Canadian judge rules

#122

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> and did so for peaceful freedom of speech demonstrations by truckers recently Ahh yes, the "speech" of 160dB ship horns for 22 hours a day for 3 weeks in residential neighborhoods.

Yep. If you don’t live in Ottawa, please stop trying to tell us how peaceful and reasonable the attempt at overthrowing our democratically elected government, attended by nazis flying swastikas on our monuments and involving people trying to burn down buildings, was.

Lol

(Just to be clear, is case anyone doesn't know about this, the above is either an absolutely insane or absurdly dishonest characterization, it's easy to do your own research)

Re: Giving the finger is a ‘God-given right’, Canadian judge rules

#123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Violating the Charter was one of the core arguments in this decision. So… no.

Sounds like you've got a clear understanding of the situation

No more clear than simply reading the decision including the parts where the judge states that it would violate Charter rights.

“To be abundantly clear, it is not a crime to give someone the finger. Flipping the proverbial bird is a God-given, Charter enshrined right that belongs to every red-blooded Canadian.”

Re: Giving the finger is a ‘God-given right’, Canadian judge rules

#124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Canada's charter of rights and freedoms isn't worth the paper it's printed on, especially in Quebec where the government actively pre-empts it (it has a clause that allows this, explaining why it's worthless) when it doesn't line up with their ideology.

Violating the Charter was one of the core arguments in this decision. So… no.

Part of the Charter is that the legislature can write that they're going to violate it and it'll be OK

Re: Giving the finger is a ‘God-given right’, Canadian judge rules

#125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Violating the Charter was one of the core arguments in this decision. So… no.

Part of the Charter is that the legislature can write that they're going to violate it and it'll be OK

Oh well then throw it all out. Completely useless.

Re: Giving the finger is a ‘God-given right’, Canadian judge rules

#127
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It is indeed shocking that this poor man was arrested, charged, and taken through a full prosecution despite the obviously flawed evidence. The crown prosecutor erred so greatly in taking this case on that it strains belief. In Canada, the crown turns down all sorts of cases if they aren’t highly confident they can win. This one? Prosecutors are appointed, not elected. They have nothing to gain from such legal touris…

leaving aside the show of incompetence of that specific "crown prosecutor", what I find even far more shocking is that in 2023 there still is such a thing as a "crown prosecutor". I'd say it's high time to gain full independence and throw the English "crown" out of Canada.

Re: Giving the finger is a ‘God-given right’, Canadian judge rules

#128

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Part of the Charter is that the legislature can write that they're going to violate it and it'll be OK

Oh well then throw it all out. Completely useless.

I'm just saying, you don't really have freedom of speech if the government can decide to violate it if they feel like it.

Edit: I'm apparently rate-limited. Anyway, if words on paper don't mean anything, then bringing up the Charter as evidence that Canadians have free speech is completely irrelevant.

Second, the notwithstanding clause isn't a theoretical possibility.

> I find my American friends sometimes freak out over the “but they could take your freedoms away!” when they read about stuff like that. Well, yeah they could do anything. Like make secret courts that ignore constitutional freedoms.

This is a cute way of pretending the clause is never used.

Re: Giving the finger is a ‘God-given right’, Canadian judge rules

#129

Another great nugget: >> This deplorable Laval reference is worthy of an eye roll that could sever both optical nerves. When a Karen presses charges...

For those wondering, the Laval reference is this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laval_daycare_bus_crash

Re: Giving the finger is a ‘God-given right’, Canadian judge rules

#130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep. If you don’t live in Ottawa, please stop trying to tell us how peaceful and reasonable the attempt at overthrowing our democratically elected government, attended by nazis flying swastikas on our monuments and involving people trying to burn down buildings, was.

Lol (Just to be clear, is case anyone doesn't know about this, the above is either an absolutely insane or absurdly dishonest characterization, it's easy to do your own research)

I wonder how a civil war refugee would react seeing this [0] [1] labelled as an attempt to overthrow a democratically elected government.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P74pbbhCZng

[1] https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hzfwaSVIvoA

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