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Re: Ask HN: How is the SVB situation affecting your startup?

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I think this thread will have tons of views from people in the startup world that are likely to be SVB customers. If we all agree to not do run in the bank, it will improve chances for SVB to make it through the next few days. I'll start with committing not to withdraw money my company [redacted] holds in the bank. We stand by SVB. I invite others to do the same.

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Re: Ask HN: How is the SVB situation affecting your startup?

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Personally, I don't think there's a real problem unless everyone panics. Banks are well-regulated and stable and have been for decades. That said, my investors & cofounder have both expressed gratitude that our startup banks with Mercury and not SVB.

I was obviously very wrong. I've never had an HN comment age so poorly, so fast.

Re: Ask HN: How is the SVB situation affecting your startup?

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Disclaimer: I know next to nothing about the financial system or banking inside baseball. This is just one founder's reaction to the whole mess. We were reluctant to move our funds most of the day yesterday. Felt like a lot of dumb panic. We had emails from a few investors, most saying "stay calm" but one saying "move your money to this bank that I'm invested in!" ugh. We decided near the end of the day to move at le…

> Annoyingly, we're moving it because everyone else is moving it. I know it's a really dumb, self-fulling prophecy but at this point you don't want to be the last in line.

On the bright side, Ronnie James Dio wrote a song about your current predicament.

Re: Ask HN: How is the SVB situation affecting your startup?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not at all, my point is to avoid fancy words like "solvency" and "liquidity", they blind you to the basic fact that if you need cash today and you can't get it then you're broke. Whether you have assets that *you* believe you could draw on in the future doesn't matter when your need is immediate.

You say blindingly fancy words. I say important difference. You say basic fact. I say oversimplification. We can argue about the semantics of the word "broke", but the difference here is between losing all your money vs. having to take out a loan now that you're pretty much guaranteed to be able to repay when your bonds mature and only losing the interest payments on that loan.

But here's the the bugger: Folk don't give you loans when you're insolvent.

Re: Ask HN: How is the SVB situation affecting your startup?

#155
post #58

I think this thread will have tons of views from people in the startup world that are likely to be SVB customers. If we all agree to not do run in the bank, it will improve chances for SVB to make it through the next few days. I'll start with committing not to withdraw money my company [redacted] holds in the bank. We stand by SVB. I invite others to do the same.

This did not age well.

Re: Ask HN: How is the SVB situation affecting your startup?

#156

Disclaimer: I know next to nothing about the financial system or banking inside baseball. This is just one founder's reaction to the whole mess. We were reluctant to move our funds most of the day yesterday. Felt like a lot of dumb panic. We had emails from a few investors, most saying "stay calm" but one saying "move your money to this bank that I'm invested in!" ugh. We decided near the end of the day to move at le…

Well this comment aged well

At least you're able to acknowledge your mistakes. For your employee's sakes, I hope you're able to make next payroll.

Re: Ask HN: How is the SVB situation affecting your startup?

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post #58

I think this thread will have tons of views from people in the startup world that are likely to be SVB customers. If we all agree to not do run in the bank, it will improve chances for SVB to make it through the next few days. I'll start with committing not to withdraw money my company [redacted] holds in the bank. We stand by SVB. I invite others to do the same.

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Re: Ask HN: How is the SVB situation affecting your startup?

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post #150
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I think this thread will have tons of views from people in the startup world that are likely to be SVB customers. If we all agree to not do run in the bank, it will improve chances for SVB to make it through the next few days. I'll start with committing not to withdraw money my company [redacted] holds in the bank. We stand by SVB. I invite others to do the same.

I guess it’s kind of sweet and innocent to have such faith that a group of disparate people would act against their own self interest for only a nebulous future “common good” outcome, and that would be sparked by a comment on an internet forum. Makes me feel kind of jaded to be honest. But maybe that’s the problem with society. Maybe we all just need to band together and not be swallowed by despair. Screw it - I also…

How sweet of you, Brian.

I pledge to not take out another loan.

Re: Ask HN: How is the SVB situation affecting your startup?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, they did the wrong thing by selling so late.

Agreed -- but are you saying they shouldn't have sold at all? I don't think you can say it was a "wrong decision" at the moment, I agree that it was too late. But you could also go back and say they shouldn't have invested in the long term assets in the first place. Or you could go back and say they shouldn't have accepted the deposits without having short-term gain solutions in the first place.

I'm saying they shouldn't have bought what they sold in the first place.
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