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Giving the finger is a ‘God-given right’, Canadian judge rules

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Re: Giving the finger is a ‘God-given right’, Canadian judge rules

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If you look past the headline, this story is almost "basic sanity". The guy's neighbour didn't want the accused's kids playing in the street (in the suburbs) because they have a yard. To "prove" his point that it was dangerous he drove recklessly around the kids in the street. The accused flipped him off and (allegedly because he denies it) threatened him. Now frankly, I don't see why this would be hackernews-worthy,…

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Re: Giving the finger is a ‘God-given right’, Canadian judge rules

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I admit, it's long. But the ending was brilliant. "In the modern-day vernacular, people often refer to a criminal case “being thrown out”. Obviously, this is little more than a figurative expression. Cases aren’t actually thrown out, in the literal or physical sense. Nevertheless, in the specific circumstances of this case, the Court is inclined to actually take the file and throw it out the window, which is the only…

Wow that's colorful for court documents. I don't see how it could have turned out any other way. I'm just surprised he was actually arrested for something that's obviously covered by the first amendment. This reeks incompetence from the district attorney, trying to intimidate the man out of his rights like that.

How can you tell me that you're American without actually saying it? Oh, here's a way!

Re: Giving the finger is a ‘God-given right’, Canadian judge rules

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doesn't the noise from basketballs hitting concrete/asphalt drive you guys nuts?

It's not nearly as bad as the sound of children laughing.

The absolute horror.

Re: Giving the finger is a ‘God-given right’, Canadian judge rules

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Wow that's colorful for court documents. I don't see how it could have turned out any other way. I'm just surprised he was actually arrested for something that's obviously covered by the first amendment. This reeks incompetence from the district attorney, trying to intimidate the man out of his rights like that.

The first amendment to the US constitution does not apply to Canada. Unless you believe US law is globally binding. (That said, Canada does have their own freedom of speech, under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.)

> That said, Canada does have their own freedom of speech, under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

So basically the same amendment, covering the same rights and inspired by the same document (pretty sure the US constitution came first) just under a different name.

Re: Giving the finger is a ‘God-given right’, Canadian judge rules

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The first amendment to the US constitution does not apply to Canada. Unless you believe US law is globally binding. (That said, Canada does have their own freedom of speech, under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.)

Canada's charter of rights and freedoms isn't worth the paper it's printed on, especially in Quebec where the government actively pre-empts it (it has a clause that allows this, explaining why it's worthless) when it doesn't line up with their ideology.

We grant you this right, not withstanding any desire we have to take it away.

Re: Giving the finger is a ‘God-given right’, Canadian judge rules

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I know saying "fuck the police" is an overused cliche at this point but how the fuck can anyone have any respect for the police as a whole when this is the shit they do? In canada they arrest you for a hand gesture and in america they arrest you for letting your children walk outside. How could any sane member of society go to a person's house and arrest them for these things? And they still have the nerve to complai…

The cops weren’t involved simply because of someone giving someone the finger.

The person was accused for making death threats and that’s what the arrest was about.

Re: Giving the finger is a ‘God-given right’, Canadian judge rules

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post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The first amendment to the US constitution does not apply to Canada. Unless you believe US law is globally binding. (That said, Canada does have their own freedom of speech, under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.)

Canada's charter of rights and freedoms isn't worth the paper it's printed on, especially in Quebec where the government actively pre-empts it (it has a clause that allows this, explaining why it's worthless) when it doesn't line up with their ideology.

Its not a perfect utopia, but its not nearly as dire as you suggest.

Re: Giving the finger is a ‘God-given right’, Canadian judge rules

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I admit, it's long. But the ending was brilliant. "In the modern-day vernacular, people often refer to a criminal case “being thrown out”. Obviously, this is little more than a figurative expression. Cases aren’t actually thrown out, in the literal or physical sense. Nevertheless, in the specific circumstances of this case, the Court is inclined to actually take the file and throw it out the window, which is the only…

Wow that's colorful for court documents. I don't see how it could have turned out any other way. I'm just surprised he was actually arrested for something that's obviously covered by the first amendment. This reeks incompetence from the district attorney, trying to intimidate the man out of his rights like that.

Judicial opinions are often colorful.

Re: Giving the finger is a ‘God-given right’, Canadian judge rules

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post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The first amendment to the US constitution does not apply to Canada. Unless you believe US law is globally binding. (That said, Canada does have their own freedom of speech, under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.)

> That said, Canada does have their own freedom of speech, under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. So basically the same amendment, covering the same rights and inspired by the same document (pretty sure the US constitution came first) just under a different name.

Its not the first amendment to the canadian constitution (hello manitoba) and the specifics of the rights granted and their limitations are different [sometimes very different than usa. E.g. gay marriage and abortion].

Additionally prior to the charter canada had some limited freedom of speech from the implied bill of rights, so its not like it introduced it.

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