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Twitter’s $42k-per-month API prices out nearly everyone

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Re: Twitter’s $42k-per-month API prices out nearly everyone

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Post by goosedragons »

mrtksn wrote: post #66
anigbrowl wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Academics don't resell the data to others. In fact, their existing agreements with Twitter requires their published datasets (for reproducibility) to be anonymized precisely to ensure they don't become a commercial goldmine. Given that most of the article is about the pricing tiers for academic use, based on marketing communications to universities, your comment seems strangely indifferent to the context of this news…

Academic work has all kinds of costs, why should data be free of charge?

There's pretty huge gap between $0 a month and $42,000. Even a year of data would require pretty huge grant.

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Post by ahahahahah »

ahahahahah wrote: post #98
ZunarJ5 wrote: post #73

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If you would like to contribute to monitoring Facebook, consider adding Ad Observer to your browser. It's non-intrusive. https://adobserver.org/ AdObserver is a project of Cybersecurity for Democracy at New York University’s Tandon School of Engineering. This extension was originally developed by researchers from the Algorithmic Transparency Institute, Quartz, New York University, and the University of Grenoble. Tech…

"If you think Cambridge Analytical was great, try this thing that's even better!"

To be clear, people should not be using this thing that has no limits on what data it could be consuming. The CA thing people were upset about was that one user could give CA permission to read their FB data and that meant that CA had access to anything that that user had access to (like data that their friends shared with them). This is the same, without it even pretending to be limited by the restrictions that CA was limited by.

Re: Twitter’s $42k-per-month API prices out nearly everyone

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Post by precompute »

mrtksn wrote: post #11

I'm not the greatest Musk fan but IMHO his approach to charge those who benefits from Twitter is spot on and I'm actually rooting for him to be able to find a viable business model which does not rely on selling my attention to highest bidder. If you are going to influence people, pay for the reach and If you are going to mine data, pay for the data. I guess the exact pricing can be adjusted according to the market n…

It's expensive because now the real customers are now out in the open: governments. Endless coffers.

Re: Twitter’s $42k-per-month API prices out nearly everyone

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Post by ZunarJ5 »

ahahahahah wrote: post #102
ahahahahah wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"If you think Cambridge Analytical was great, try this thing that's even better!"

To be clear, people should not be using this thing that has no limits on what data it could be consuming. The CA thing people were upset about was that one user could give CA permission to read their FB data and that meant that CA had access to anything that that user had access to (like data that their friends shared with them). This is the same, without it even pretending to be limited by the restrictions that CA w…

The code is open source on GitHub.

https://github.com/CybersecurityForDemocracy/social-media-co...

Re: Twitter’s $42k-per-month API prices out nearly everyone

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Post by ahahahahah »

ModernMech wrote: post #84
user3939382 wrote: post #79

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The white house wasn't even doing the same. The fbi was pointing out tweets that violated Twitter's rules and suggesting that they evaluate them but that it was totally up to Twitter about what to do. The white house was pointing out tweets that embarrassed or otherwise hurt Trump's feelings and demanding that Twitter take them down

Re: Twitter’s $42k-per-month API prices out nearly everyone

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Post by recuter »

mike_d wrote: post #24

All of these moves make sense when you zoom out and realize Musk has no interest in Twitter as a business. It is a megaphone to amplify his own voice and the voices that support his viewpoints. Having third party API consumers able to pull in content and reorder it other than how he wants it presented is counter to that goal. The genius of Fox News was "why spend money on buying political attack ads when you can just…

What are his viewpoints and how are they amplified considering anybody can post anything?

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Post by WXLCKNO »

nitwit005 wrote: post #96
mrtksn wrote: post #11

I'm not the greatest Musk fan but IMHO his approach to charge those who benefits from Twitter is spot on and I'm actually rooting for him to be able to find a viable business model which does not rely on selling my attention to highest bidder. If you are going to influence people, pay for the reach and If you are going to mine data, pay for the data. I guess the exact pricing can be adjusted according to the market n…

The difficulty is, people can still scrape the data. That data scraping is likely to cost Twitter more than the API did, as they have to serve up the full page. Yes, you can try to block people doing that, but historically people haven't succeeded.

I, for one, will scrape Twitter relentlessly.

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Post by cmh89 »

mrtksn wrote: post #11

I'm not the greatest Musk fan but IMHO his approach to charge those who benefits from Twitter is spot on and I'm actually rooting for him to be able to find a viable business model which does not rely on selling my attention to highest bidder. If you are going to influence people, pay for the reach and If you are going to mine data, pay for the data. I guess the exact pricing can be adjusted according to the market n…

>I'm not the greatest Musk fan but IMHO his approach to charge those who benefits from Twitter is spot on and I'm actually rooting for him to be able to find a viable business model which does not rely on selling my attention to highest bidder.

If there is money to be made, he's not going to pass it up. Why not charge and sell your attention to the highest bidder at the same time? It's the literal cable model and it's proven to work for 50 years.

Re: Twitter’s $42k-per-month API prices out nearly everyone

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Post by jareds »

starik36 wrote: post #69
slg wrote: post #57

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It is possible to criticize Musk and his management of Twitter for completely apolitical reasons. You have to be a sycophant to describe his management style as anything other than chaotic. There are literally employees at the company who don't have any work because there is no one to assign them to a department or team. There are people who don't even know if they work there anymore because the layoffs were handled…

Yes, it's possible. But saying "guy that played himself into burning $44 billion on a website that makes no money, just so he could force all its users to read his shitposts" isn't the way. It just reveals their biases.

Other then the term "shitposts" what's wrong with that statement? They did make updates to give him and only him a broader reach and more views. The only reason I say "shitposts" may be an issue with the statement is because I don't feel like seeing if there's a definition for shitposts and if there is cross referencing it with the last couple months of his posts.
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