Live data from Hacker News

Twitter’s $42k-per-month API prices out nearly everyone

wired.com

81–90 of 233 posts

Re: Twitter’s $42k-per-month API prices out nearly everyone

#81
post #24

All of these moves make sense when you zoom out and realize Musk has no interest in Twitter as a business. It is a megaphone to amplify his own voice and the voices that support his viewpoints. Having third party API consumers able to pull in content and reorder it other than how he wants it presented is counter to that goal. The genius of Fox News was "why spend money on buying political attack ads when you can just…

Also consistent with his stated goal of making the business profitable.

That remains to be seen...

I would not be surprised if he could have offered the api $420/mo and 100x more apps were willing and/or able to pay.

Re: Twitter’s $42k-per-month API prices out nearly everyone

#83
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think Twitter will sell your attention in addition to other revenue streams, given the chance.

Exactly, your attention is always going to be sold to the highest bidder—that won't change. Now you just get worse 3rd party apps and integrations. Interesting to see the attempt to spin this as a positive.

if the integrations and overall experience is worse... won't that mean there's less attention (and possibly less quality attention) to be sold?

Re: Twitter’s $42k-per-month API prices out nearly everyone

#84

...Blackburn, however, says researchers will continue to find a way to scrutinize what’s happening on Twitter. “We’ve been mostly cut off from Facebook for years and we’ve continued to make progress,” he says. “It’s not like science is going to be held hostage by a guy that played himself into burning $44 billion on a website that makes no money, just so he could force all its users to read his shitposts.”

[flagged]

[flagged]

Re: Twitter’s $42k-per-month API prices out nearly everyone

#85
post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is possible to criticize Musk and his management of Twitter for completely apolitical reasons. You have to be a sycophant to describe his management style as anything other than chaotic. There are literally employees at the company who don't have any work because there is no one to assign them to a department or team. There are people who don't even know if they work there anymore because the layoffs were handled…

Yes, it's possible. But saying "guy that played himself into burning $44 billion on a website that makes no money, just so he could force all its users to read his shitposts" isn't the way. It just reveals their biases.

It’s biased to make a statement of fact?

Re: Twitter’s $42k-per-month API prices out nearly everyone

#86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure Twitter gets more value out of King than $8/month.

I'm sure they do, but wasn't that also a part of Twitter Blue, a revenue share, or have they not followed through with that either?

https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/3/23623927/twitter-blue-ad-r...

Re: Twitter’s $42k-per-month API prices out nearly everyone

#87

...Blackburn, however, says researchers will continue to find a way to scrutinize what’s happening on Twitter. “We’ve been mostly cut off from Facebook for years and we’ve continued to make progress,” he says. “It’s not like science is going to be held hostage by a guy that played himself into burning $44 billion on a website that makes no money, just so he could force all its users to read his shitposts.”

[flagged]

I don’t think that the FBI recommending that Twitter look into posts that both break Twitter rules and were suspected of being generated by foreign operatives counts as illegal collusion.

I also don’t think Twitter was the deciding factor in Biden winning, and the election certainly wasn’t rigged.

Re: Twitter’s $42k-per-month API prices out nearly everyone

#88
post #11

I'm not the greatest Musk fan but IMHO his approach to charge those who benefits from Twitter is spot on and I'm actually rooting for him to be able to find a viable business model which does not rely on selling my attention to highest bidder. If you are going to influence people, pay for the reach and If you are going to mine data, pay for the data. I guess the exact pricing can be adjusted according to the market n…

They could make even more money if they charged $84k per month! Genius business model.

That wouldn't be the weed number tho.

Re: Twitter’s $42k-per-month API prices out nearly everyone

#89
post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Academics don't resell the data to others. In fact, their existing agreements with Twitter requires their published datasets (for reproducibility) to be anonymized precisely to ensure they don't become a commercial goldmine. Given that most of the article is about the pricing tiers for academic use, based on marketing communications to universities, your comment seems strangely indifferent to the context of this news…

Why cant universities fund it with their billion dollar endowments?

Not many universities have billion dollar endowments.

Re: Twitter’s $42k-per-month API prices out nearly everyone

#90
post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is possible to criticize Musk and his management of Twitter for completely apolitical reasons. You have to be a sycophant to describe his management style as anything other than chaotic. There are literally employees at the company who don't have any work because there is no one to assign them to a department or team. There are people who don't even know if they work there anymore because the layoffs were handled…

Yes, it's possible. But saying "guy that played himself into burning $44 billion on a website that makes no money, just so he could force all its users to read his shitposts" isn't the way. It just reveals their biases.

I don't know, that seems to be the apolitical reading of the situation. Is there something specific you object to in that quote?

>guy that played himself into burning $44 billion

That seems unquestionable. Twitter wasn't worth that price when he actually took control or he wouldn't have tried so hard to get out of the deal. It is impossible to put an accurate value on Twitter today, but it seems obvious that its value has gone down even further under Musk's leadership.

>a website that makes no money

Maybe hyperbolic depending on your definition of "makes no money", but it hasn't turned a profit in years so it is fair to categorize it as "a website that makes no money".

>just so he could force all its users to read his shitposts

Maybe you object to the "just" there and he had other reasons to make the purchase, but this general accusation seems true[1]. He is at least partially motivated by vanity and getting other people to read his weird jokes.

[1] - https://www.theverge.com/2023/2/14/23600358/elon-musk-tweets...

Post reply on HN