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FDIC Takes over Silicon Valley Bank

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Re: FDIC Takes over Silicon Valley Bank

#751

So it seems like they mismanaged their assets and their liabilities, taking on a lot of expensive deposits while investing at low yield. What I don't get is all this pro-SVB, anti-VC sentiment, how "some VC's yelled fire in a crowded theater" and caused the poor bank to collapse. Isn't it just common sense though, to protect your money? The bank fucked up by doing risky reckless things, it got exacerbated because the…

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Re: FDIC Takes over Silicon Valley Bank

#752
post #601

An explainer post [1] connected to that Tweet is something I found extremely informative (assuming it's accurate): "- In 2021 SVB saw a mass influx in deposits, which jumped from $61.76bn at the end of 2019 to $189.20bn at the end of 2021. - As deposits grew, SVB could not grow their loan book fast enough to generate the yield they wanted to see on this capital. As a result, they purchased a large amount (over $80bn!…

When the fuck are retail banks going to be ring-fenced away from being able to trade in MBS. They're consistently cancerous to our banking systems.

This has nothing to do with MBS in particular, it is a fundamental aspect of the fixed income market.

Re: FDIC Takes over Silicon Valley Bank

#753

So it seems like they mismanaged their assets and their liabilities, taking on a lot of expensive deposits while investing at low yield. What I don't get is all this pro-SVB, anti-VC sentiment, how "some VC's yelled fire in a crowded theater" and caused the poor bank to collapse. Isn't it just common sense though, to protect your money? The bank fucked up by doing risky reckless things, it got exacerbated because the…

"Common sense" that just fucked over the industry & a whole lot of workers in it.

In more mature industries, people would have been confident that the government wouldn't let their bank go under, because the government usually doesn't, and as a result the government usually doesn't have to. Instead, startup culture is so low-trust that we shot ourselves in the foot.

Re: FDIC Takes over Silicon Valley Bank

#755

I don't understand why anyone would park any sum larger than, say, $5mm in a bank deposit for more than a minute. It isn't hard to dump those funds into a money market fund backed by short-term commercial paper or even short-term Treasury bills. Or to just buy the Treasury bills outright. Such holdings are quite liquid and can be absolutely secure. Use the bank account for clearing, keep a couple million in it and se…

Would love to understand if this is actually good financial advice here. My bank plays broker for all the assets I own and tbills are part of that. FDIC wrote: > As the FDIC sells the assets of Silicon Valley Bank, future dividend payments may be made to uninsured depositors. So to me that sounds like those „risk-free“ assets will get liquidated too. I‘d love to hear an actual professional confirm/deny this. Because…

The bank's assets will be liquidated. If you have a securities account at a bank those are your assets, not the bank's.

Re: FDIC Takes over Silicon Valley Bank

#756

An explainer post [1] connected to that Tweet is something I found extremely informative (assuming it's accurate): "- In 2021 SVB saw a mass influx in deposits, which jumped from $61.76bn at the end of 2019 to $189.20bn at the end of 2021. - As deposits grew, SVB could not grow their loan book fast enough to generate the yield they wanted to see on this capital. As a result, they purchased a large amount (over $80bn!…

Relevant Bits About Money article on FDIC and bank failure:

https://www.bitsaboutmoney.com/archive/deposit-insurance/

I should add: apart from 2008, bank failure has historically been quite rare

Re: FDIC Takes over Silicon Valley Bank

#757

So what happens to all the startups that were created via Stripe/ATLAS with an SVB account currently less than 250k in cash balances? Should they move their $ to a new bank? if so which one is recommended? thanks!

All those accounts are 100% totally fine, the fdic will move their money to a new bank. YOu can google how this works but its 100% seamless

Re: FDIC Takes over Silicon Valley Bank

#758
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> - The issue is that as the Fed raised interest rates in 2022 and continued to do so through 2023, the value of SVB’s MBS plummeted. This is because investors can now purchase long-duration "risk-free" bonds from the Fed at a 2.5x higher yield. Let's be clear, the issue wasn't that the Fed raised rates to a historically average level, it was that they were manipulating the bond market in 2021 with trillions of dolla…

> Let's be clear, the issue wasn't that the Fed raised rates to a historically average level, it was that they were manipulating the bond market in 2021 with trillions of dollars of QE. One of the principle, statutory purposes of the Federal Reserve is to conduct monetary policy to achieve maximum employment and stable prices. That means it's the job of the Fed to manipulate interest rates.

Actually, they are sacrificing employment to stabilize prices: https://time.com/6253699/federal-reserve-inflation-interest-.... The interest rate hikes are designed to cause unemployment, and it's not even working.

Re: FDIC Takes over Silicon Valley Bank

#759

An explainer post [1] connected to that Tweet is something I found extremely informative (assuming it's accurate): "- In 2021 SVB saw a mass influx in deposits, which jumped from $61.76bn at the end of 2019 to $189.20bn at the end of 2021. - As deposits grew, SVB could not grow their loan book fast enough to generate the yield they wanted to see on this capital. As a result, they purchased a large amount (over $80bn!…

> - This is not a liquidity issue as long as SVB maintains their deposits, since these securities will pay out more than they cost eventually.

You mean it's not a solvency issue? It sounds like a textbook liquidity issue.

Re: FDIC Takes over Silicon Valley Bank

#760
post #401

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"This is not a liquidity issue as long as SVB maintains their deposits, since these securities will pay out more than they cost eventually." But that's exactly the problem. With higher interest rates, those deposits will be looking for a higher deposit rate. With their assets tied up in low-paying long-term bonds, SVB will not be able to pay that higher rate. It would only work out "eventually", if the depositors wou…

He meant solvency issue. Someone else called this out downthread and he confirmed. Definitely felt like it should've been corrected more prominently, though.

So they didn't require the deposits earning 2% to be in term CDs like sane banks and credit unions do?
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