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Re: Twitter’s $42k-per-month API prices out nearly everyone

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Post by piqi »

mrtksn wrote: post #11

I'm not the greatest Musk fan but IMHO his approach to charge those who benefits from Twitter is spot on and I'm actually rooting for him to be able to find a viable business model which does not rely on selling my attention to highest bidder. If you are going to influence people, pay for the reach and If you are going to mine data, pay for the data. I guess the exact pricing can be adjusted according to the market n…

> ...find a viable business model which does not rely on selling my attention to highest bidder.

They'll do both.

Re: Twitter’s $42k-per-month API prices out nearly everyone

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Post by theFletch »

darkarmani wrote: post #61
theFletch wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, I guess I thought Musk had already removed legacy checks. The whole thing seems a little silly. King obviously doesn't need Twitter, but I'm sure he receives more value out of Twitter than $8/mo even so (or whatever they're charging now).

I'm sure Twitter gets more value out of King than $8/month.

I'm sure they do, but wasn't that also a part of Twitter Blue, a revenue share, or have they not followed through with that either?

Re: Twitter’s $42k-per-month API prices out nearly everyone

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Post by ZunarJ5 »

jacobedawson wrote: post #22

...Blackburn, however, says researchers will continue to find a way to scrutinize what’s happening on Twitter. “We’ve been mostly cut off from Facebook for years and we’ve continued to make progress,” he says. “It’s not like science is going to be held hostage by a guy that played himself into burning $44 billion on a website that makes no money, just so he could force all its users to read his shitposts.”

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Re: Twitter’s $42k-per-month API prices out nearly everyone

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Post by wvenable »

MuffinFlavored wrote: post #49
croes wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And if collect data, pay for that too. When does Twitter start paying it's users who produce the data?

> When does Twitter start paying it's users who produce the data? Why do those users choose to produce data for Twitter/on Twitter for free?

Because it's free to do so.

Re: Twitter’s $42k-per-month API prices out nearly everyone

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Post by [deleted] »

theFletch wrote: post #47
mbStavola wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So... nothing? If you click on his checkmark it tells you that he's a legacy verified account and does NOT pay for Twitter Blue.

Sorry, I guess I thought Musk had already removed legacy checks. The whole thing seems a little silly. King obviously doesn't need Twitter, but I'm sure he receives more value out of Twitter than $8/mo even so (or whatever they're charging now).

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Re: Twitter’s $42k-per-month API prices out nearly everyone

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Post by andrejguran »

mrtksn wrote: post #66
anigbrowl wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Academics don't resell the data to others. In fact, their existing agreements with Twitter requires their published datasets (for reproducibility) to be anonymized precisely to ensure they don't become a commercial goldmine. Given that most of the article is about the pricing tiers for academic use, based on marketing communications to universities, your comment seems strangely indifferent to the context of this news…

Academic work has all kinds of costs, why should data be free of charge?

doesn't have to be free but with every increase there will be less research that can afford to pay for the data and with the proposed pricing of $500.000 for 0.3% of tweets it seems that no-one will be willing to pay the price

Re: Twitter’s $42k-per-month API prices out nearly everyone

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Post by devjab »

starik36 wrote: post #69
slg wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is possible to criticize Musk and his management of Twitter for completely apolitical reasons. You have to be a sycophant to describe his management style as anything other than chaotic. There are literally employees at the company who don't have any work because there is no one to assign them to a department or team. There are people who don't even know if they work there anymore because the layoffs were handled…

Yes, it's possible. But saying "guy that played himself into burning $44 billion on a website that makes no money, just so he could force all its users to read his shitposts" isn't the way. It just reveals their biases.

Is it? I'm not on Twitter and I'm Danish so I'm not really caught up on American identity politics, outside of what you hear online, but is that really revealing any bias of that sort? It sounds like someone who has a dislike for Musk, but really, I think this could be said about most of the billionaires running social media platforms from a certain point of view.

I think we should still put a lot of the blame on ourselves, but really, our political institutions shouldn't be on these centralized social medias if you ask me. They should be running their own instances of something like mastodon, so that it's not an American tech company that gets to moderate Danish politicians. Which isn't really a right or left leaning point of view where I come from.

Frankly saying that Musk burnt $44 billion on a website that makes no money could also just being laughing at the whole situation. I think it's been sort of hilarious to follow, but being Danish, we do have a nice tradition for enjoying watching successful people fail. That being said, you may also be right, but I think it's a bit of stretch to boil this down to political bias of the sort, because there is frankly a bunch of reasons to laugh at twitter right now that have nothing to do with politics.

Re: Twitter’s $42k-per-month API prices out nearly everyone

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Post by 2h »

anigbrowl wrote: post #44
mrtksn wrote: post #11

I'm not the greatest Musk fan but IMHO his approach to charge those who benefits from Twitter is spot on and I'm actually rooting for him to be able to find a viable business model which does not rely on selling my attention to highest bidder. If you are going to influence people, pay for the reach and If you are going to mine data, pay for the data. I guess the exact pricing can be adjusted according to the market n…

Academics don't resell the data to others. In fact, their existing agreements with Twitter requires their published datasets (for reproducibility) to be anonymized precisely to ensure they don't become a commercial goldmine. Given that most of the article is about the pricing tiers for academic use, based on marketing communications to universities, your comment seems strangely indifferent to the context of this news…

Why cant universities fund it with their billion dollar endowments?

Re: Twitter’s $42k-per-month API prices out nearly everyone

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Post by user3939382 »

jacobedawson wrote: post #22

...Blackburn, however, says researchers will continue to find a way to scrutinize what’s happening on Twitter. “We’ve been mostly cut off from Facebook for years and we’ve continued to make progress,” he says. “It’s not like science is going to be held hostage by a guy that played himself into burning $44 billion on a website that makes no money, just so he could force all its users to read his shitposts.”

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Re: Twitter’s $42k-per-month API prices out nearly everyone

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Post by viscanti »

mrtksn wrote: post #66
anigbrowl wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Academics don't resell the data to others. In fact, their existing agreements with Twitter requires their published datasets (for reproducibility) to be anonymized precisely to ensure they don't become a commercial goldmine. Given that most of the article is about the pricing tiers for academic use, based on marketing communications to universities, your comment seems strangely indifferent to the context of this news…

Academic work has all kinds of costs, why should data be free of charge?

How many researchers can and will pay $42k per month for access? What's the market size here? Is this anything more than a drop in the bucket for Twitter?
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