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Shane Pitman, leader of the warez group Razor 1911: life after prison (2005)

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Re: Shane Pitman, leader of the warez group Razor 1911: life after prison (2005)

#21
post #16

If you don't want to do the time, don't do the crime. Just because it happens on a computer in cyber space, doesn't mean it's not real.

> If you don't want to do the time, don't do the crime

The same thing was told by the persecutors of those who smuggled slaves from the South to their freedom.

Re: Shane Pitman, leader of the warez group Razor 1911: life after prison (2005)

#22
post #16

If you don't want to do the time, don't do the crime. Just because it happens on a computer in cyber space, doesn't mean it's not real.

Full stop that should not be a criminal offense. Jailing that man for that sentence does not serve justice.

Re: Shane Pitman, leader of the warez group Razor 1911: life after prison (2005)

#23

Why do people like him think copyright laws are bad and made by rich people, but also support open source software, which relies on the same copyright laws to exist. If hes an anarchist then fine, but it looks like he wants laws that benefit him and not people that actually write software. I read the whole thing and I still don't know why he did it. He says there was no money incentive and his work had no impact on p…

Copyleft is a defensive measure in a hostile environment. If there were no copy laws at all then they wouldn't argue for them.

Re: Shane Pitman, leader of the warez group Razor 1911: life after prison (2005)

#24
post #13

My childhood hero. Sad to read what he went through in prison. The warez scene is still active and there's no slowing down so this bust doesn't really mean shit. Shoutout to the OGs RELOADED, SKIDROW, RAZOR, PARADOX,CODEX.

He should open a Patreon.

Re: Shane Pitman, leader of the warez group Razor 1911: life after prison (2005)

#25

Why do people like him think copyright laws are bad and made by rich people, but also support open source software, which relies on the same copyright laws to exist. If hes an anarchist then fine, but it looks like he wants laws that benefit him and not people that actually write software. I read the whole thing and I still don't know why he did it. He says there was no money incentive and his work had no impact on p…

The heart of the copyleft movement is not to remove all government regulation. You can have a problem with copyright laws in their current form while still supporting the copyleft movement.

Re: Shane Pitman, leader of the warez group Razor 1911: life after prison (2005)

#26

  I'm pretty sure that I'd have stopped with just probation, yes. Having the feds raid your house, confiscate all your gear, and put you through the hell of their investigations for a year was enough of a wake up call for me.
The gap between a sufficient punishment and what he actually got is the harshest reality in all this. It's very similar to what people have gone through for small marijuana related offenses.

Re: Shane Pitman, leader of the warez group Razor 1911: life after prison (2005)

#27
post #13

My childhood hero. Sad to read what he went through in prison. The warez scene is still active and there's no slowing down so this bust doesn't really mean shit. Shoutout to the OGs RELOADED, SKIDROW, RAZOR, PARADOX,CODEX.

greetz to all

Re: Shane Pitman, leader of the warez group Razor 1911: life after prison (2005)

#28
post #16

If you don't want to do the time, don't do the crime. Just because it happens on a computer in cyber space, doesn't mean it's not real.

> If you don't want to do the time, don't do the crime The same thing was told by the persecutors of those who smuggled slaves from the South to their freedom.

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Re: Shane Pitman, leader of the warez group Razor 1911: life after prison (2005)

#29
post #20
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cracking software doesn't warrant hard prison sentences. That's a double negative for society.

He ruined the lives of many hard-working software developers who relied on selling their code to feed their families. This was back when programming was a highly skilled and difficult job that only a few could do, so cracking was even more harshly targeting people.

Can you really point to a single other person whose life was ruined other than the guy who went to prison?

Re: Shane Pitman, leader of the warez group Razor 1911: life after prison (2005)

#30
post #16

If you don't want to do the time, don't do the crime. Just because it happens on a computer in cyber space, doesn't mean it's not real.

Full stop that should not be a criminal offense. Jailing that man for that sentence does not serve justice.

Why not?
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