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My mom works 12 hour shifts as a CNC machinist in the United States. Is there some point to this article or is it just neat to know?
Do you think Apple and Foxconn are paying Indian women time and a half for hours above 40?
That said, I'm nearly 100% certain that these women would rather have these jobs working in a clean facility than the alternative.
I have very little understanding of India. While reading the article, it sounds like the changes to Indian labor law would enable more hours to be worked. However, I don't understand whether this is a good or bad thing for the average worker (and/or woman) in India. Can someone provide more insight? Thanks.
I don’t know the finer details, but if they are proportionately paid more this is definitely a big step in the right direction for women workers. In general, women participation in workforce is outright abysmal in India. Hopefully this will be on of the many small steps towards addressing that.
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How many of those shifts does she work in a week?
Not sure, but I assume 40 hours total. It looks like India has a nationwide maximum of 48 hours before overtime. So they have a whole extra day's work than we do in the US. That is now for both men and women.
So at least in tech, it seems the norm is becoming to work 40 hr days as well.
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What's inherently abusive about a 12 hour work day? And you don't here complaints in the US because the US does not limit the amount of hours you can work in a day. It just says that companies must provide an unpaid break for more than 5 consecutive hours of work.
> And you don't here complaints in the US because the US does not limit the amount of hours you can work in a day. The media may not amplify the complaints but the complaints are very real. > It just says that companies must provide an unpaid break for more than 5 consecutive hours of work. US law does not say that.
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Many employers effectively force exempt employees to work 12 hour days.
Then don't take a salary. Nobody is forcing you to work for a nice salary. If you want to be paid by the hour so that every hour is accounted for then go for it.
I don't get this. Why push your work force like this? It's clearly very bad for the workers. And also for the factory, surely having 3 shifts is more efficient because your workers are not as fatigued so will work faster with fewer mistakes?
In addition to the 12 hour shift for all, and night shifts being allowed for women, there is still a 48 hour workweek, and maximum overtime of 145 hours in a 3 month period (an average of one extra 12 hour shift per week). Indian employers are required to pay double for overtime, so this seems mostly like the ability to move to 12x4 instead of 8x6. From an Indian minister: > “Now, the rule is that workers should work…
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I don’t know the finer details, but if they are proportionately paid more this is definitely a big step in the right direction for women workers. In general, women participation in workforce is outright abysmal in India. Hopefully this will be on of the many small steps towards addressing that.
Can you elaborate what precisely is the issue with low female participation in a country's workforce?
I mean, cut the US or Europe's output by 25-30% (to match India's low female participation) and you're basically talking about eliminating decades of growth. People would be so much poorer and worse off.
And that's just at the national level. There are a whole lot of other issues at the individual level, and the fact that it indicates a lack of freedom and opportunity for nearly half the country's population.
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The shift change problem can be eliminated by having shifts overlap, hospitals just don't want to hire more staff to make that happen.
Exactly; this idea that we HAVE to overwork our medical professionals is just outdated, and especially since COVID, actively detrimental to our healthcare systems. Hire more people, pay them more, and give them time off so they don't burn out or get sick themselves.
Sure. Where are all of these medical professionals who are looking for work?