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What a debacle. Some gallows humor from twitter: "Imagine raising $100m for your AI enabled dog washing app - and your bank sets it on fire before you can". Original: https://twitter.com/88888sAccount/status/1634028258500169731...

Maybe it's time to get rid of fractional reserve banking and change it to full reserve banking.

We really don't need a bunch of fake money flying around. It's time to have every dollar in the wild be a real dollar.

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I suspect all depositors will be made whole. The bank had a liquidity crisis; it had reserves in excess of its liabilities. Every bank borrows short term (you can walk up and withdraw your money at any time) but lends long (e.g. mortgages, though SVB writes few of those). The recent management grabbed some very long federal bonds; as rates have risen the resale value of those long term assets (paying a lower interest…

Agreed. Lots of people here in the comments are making assumptions about a system they don't understand. Depositors with > $250k aren't necessarily going to "take a haircut," for the reason you mentioned, plus a few others. Additionally: 1. Any financial advisor who recommended to these startups that they should keep >250k in a regular bank account should be fired. It's totally possible (and regularly done) to spread…

I don't think the signers count towards the limit like a personal joint account does and would keep a business account at $250k.

https://www.usbank.com/bank-accounts/fdic-deposit-insurance-...

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#383

Looks like the FDIC coverage limit was raised to $250,000 in 2008 and made permanent in 2010, before that it was $100,000 since 1980. https://americandeposits.com/history-and-timeline-of-changes... Plugging that into any online inflation calculator, $1 in 2010 is $1.33 in 2023. So FDIC insurance should really cover $333,000, and people could lose $83,000 or more due to coverage not being raised. This is one of 1000 e…

>how deregulation and defunding government programs often backfires on the people calling for it

You make this sound like the avg citizen called for this, because this is who gets screwed in these situations. The heads of banks and the banking industry called for it, and not one of them will even notice the blip in their lives.

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#384

What I don't understand is why do banks work this way? Imagine you were designing the bank from scratch having no knowledge of the current banking system. How would you do it? The most obvious thing would be if a customer deposits money, you would hold 100% of the money 1 to 1 exactly how they deposited it. Then the bank could make money by providing services to their customers. If I had to bet, most people who have…

If you have a large sum of money that you don’t expect to need them soon, do you put the in the bank or do you invest them?

Probably invest then. Why would the bank put its money in the bank if you are not?

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#385

2008 bear sterns vibes. The fed's move in interests rates was bound to break something. This is the first big name and, while banks are taken over by the FDIC often and it never makes the news, this one will be especially interesting bc it is Silicon Valley Bank. Naturally, people and the media will associate with the rest of silicon valley, bringing extra scrutiny to every brand name tech company, especially the one…

Re Bear Sterns, there were lots of political reasons it was allowed to fail while others were protected. If I remember right something about them not helping with the Long Term Capital Management collapse for example. There will have been people who had the opportunity to help SVB and collectively decided it was better to let it fail. It will be interesting to understand the decisions that were made when the dust set…

They did intervene with Bear. The JPM acquisition came with all sorts of backstops and guarantees from the Fed. Lehman was the one where they didn't intervene, which is why there was no acquisition.

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What's the best brief summary of what has happened so far?

During the last couple years, SVB got a ton of deposits, and they didn't have matching loan demand. So they invested the money in bonds. Unfortunately they make a bet that interest rates would stay low, and bought longer duration (~10 year) bonds. Interest rates have gone up, so the bonds they bought have lost value. They tried this week to fix that by selling part of the portfolio and raising capital, but did it in…

Its worth pointing out that bonds are just debt instruments and that their recoverable value responds to changes in the economic environment in pretty much the same way as direct loans with similar term would.

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#387

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But why would the startups become illiquid? Do they get the investments from the banks or do they park the investment money in this bank? And why this bank, when there are many more risk averse institutions out there?

Bridge loans, DES, convertible notes, etc..., I'm sure their were loan "products" for startups similar to helocs (likely what put them in the hole). The appetite for crypto/fintech startups was huge during the pandemic and likely pressured them to get creative on products and overleveraged. It's all unwinding now. Unfortunately, harder now for startups, mind that all those startup dreams from laid off FANG staff just…

> likely what put them in the hole

No. It sounds like they bought a bunch of safe, long-term load-backed assets. When interest rates went up, the value of the assets went down. This isn't a problem if no one withdraws before the loans are due, but if they do, they have to sell the assets that declined in value.

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#388

Now we just need an "incredible journey" blog post from SVB spinning this acquisition as a great win for both customers and investors.

ChatGPT is happy to oblige:

Silicon Valley Bank, founded in 1983, has had a long and incredible journey leading up to its acquisition by the FDIC in 2023. As a bank that specializes in working with the technology and innovation industries, it has been at the forefront of many of the industry's most significant developments.

The bank started its journey as a small community bank in Santa Clara, California. At that time, it was known as the Santa Clara Valley Bank. The founders, Bill Biggerstaff, Ken Wilcox, and Bob Medearis, saw an opportunity to create a financial institution that focused on serving the unique needs of the technology and innovation industries.

In the early years, the bank faced many challenges as it worked to establish itself as a leader in the industry. One of the biggest obstacles was convincing investors and regulators that the bank's specialized approach to banking was viable. The founders knew that they needed to build a strong foundation and establish a reputation for being a reliable and trustworthy financial institution.

Over the years, the bank grew and expanded its reach, opening offices across the United States and in key global markets. It also broadened its focus beyond just technology and innovation to include life sciences, healthcare, energy, and more. This diversification helped to insulate the bank from the ups and downs of any one industry and made it more resilient in the face of economic uncertainty.

Throughout its journey, Silicon Valley Bank has remained committed to its core values of innovation, excellence, and customer focus. It has always been willing to take calculated risks and to push the boundaries of what is possible. This approach has paid off in many ways, as the bank has been recognized as one of the most innovative and respected financial institutions in the world.

In 2023, Silicon Valley Bank achieved a major milestone when it was acquired by the FDIC. This acquisition was a testament to the bank's success and the strength of its business model. It also signaled a new era of growth and opportunity for the bank, as it now has the backing of one of the most respected regulatory bodies in the world.

Looking ahead, Silicon Valley Bank is poised to continue its incredible journey and to make an even greater impact on the world. As the technology and innovation industries continue to evolve and grow, the bank is well-positioned to help fuel that growth and to support the entrepreneurs and visionaries who are driving it forward. With its deep expertise, strong relationships, and unwavering commitment to excellence, Silicon Valley Bank is poised to remain a leader in the financial services industry for many years to come.

Re: FDIC Takes over Silicon Valley Bank

#389

An explainer post [1] connected to that Tweet is something I found extremely informative (assuming it's accurate): "- In 2021 SVB saw a mass influx in deposits, which jumped from $61.76bn at the end of 2019 to $189.20bn at the end of 2021. - As deposits grew, SVB could not grow their loan book fast enough to generate the yield they wanted to see on this capital. As a result, they purchased a large amount (over $80bn!…

"This is not a liquidity issue as long as SVB maintains their deposits, since these securities will pay out more than they cost eventually."

But that's exactly the problem. With higher interest rates, those deposits will be looking for a higher deposit rate. With their assets tied up in low-paying long-term bonds, SVB will not be able to pay that higher rate.

It would only work out "eventually", if the depositors would accept a below-market rate until the bonds matured.

EDIT: This is indeed a solvency issue, not a liquidity issue, as also pointed out below.

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