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> Silicon Valley Bank is the first FDIC-insured institution to fail this year. Wow FDIC is fully calling it a failed bank. Just yesterday they were releasing statements saying they’re in a good position. Uncle Sam just fully opened Pandora’s box and made the judgement public!

This is how quickly a bank run can happen. They announced they were seeking funding, people started withdrawing all their money, and the investors all pulled out, leaving SVB high and dry. Now it's dead.

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What's the best brief summary of what has happened so far?

During the last couple years, SVB got a ton of deposits, and they didn't have matching loan demand. So they invested the money in bonds. Unfortunately they make a bet that interest rates would stay low, and bought longer duration (~10 year) bonds. Interest rates have gone up, so the bonds they bought have lost value. They tried this week to fix that by selling part of the portfolio and raising capital, but did it in…

I'm a bit confused. (Haven't followed in detail) Did they not mark to market the bonds they bought and ended up insolvent in reality but not in their books? Shouldn't the regulators have pulled the trigger earlier, then? Or is this just a liquidity issue and the bank is solvent, but the assets need to be sold?

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But I thought only crypto was risky? And that over-regulated bank sector was totally safe? Imho, this is a great argument for the return of Free banking (including crypto) as we see time and again that regulations do not work. Fail early and fast, let the market innovate and pick its winners and losers.

... my guy what are you talking about. the regulations _saved_ the depositors. if the FDIC wasn't around the little guy would be getting screwed right now, as it is, the big guys are the ones taking the brunt of the damage. if this had been crypto it would *all* be gone and the little guy would be the one holding the bag

Re: FDIC Takes over Silicon Valley Bank

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What a debacle. Some gallows humor from twitter: "Imagine raising $100m for your AI enabled dog washing app - and your bank sets it on fire before you can". Original: https://twitter.com/88888sAccount/status/1634028258500169731...

Disrupt disrupt disrupt! Those old stodgy banks just slow us down with their old-fashioned risk-averse ways! The cool kids can do it better! If I had a nickel for every time I heard this from actual friends in the past couple decades, or for when I said it myself a few times... :)

Thing is, it's probably true for 1% of the cases, that things are slow for no good reason. Trick is how to identify that 1% of times when you can truly make something better. But 99% of the times, it's all shit and ends up like this, or similarly.

Re: FDIC Takes over Silicon Valley Bank

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Its so funny until you realize your seed-round investment in a friends company used SVB. Gonna be quite a show, this.

They’ll most likely be made whole or close to whole. It’ll just take time, so as long as that startup doesn’t have a huge burn already, should be fine. Anyway you bought % in their company which you still own, the cash was gone when you wired it.

Large burn? You mean any burn at all…

Money there to to be spent over the next six months is now not available.

Payroll in Silicon Valley is going to be a mess this week.

Companies that lend to startups short term are going to have a busy time.

Re: FDIC Takes over Silicon Valley Bank

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Its so funny until you realize your seed-round investment in a friends company used SVB. Gonna be quite a show, this.

Isn't the investor justification for taking a huge chunk of profits "we take risk"? I fail to see how this is unfunny just because the risk you took played out in the bad way.

I believe they didn't think that the biggest risk to their investment would be the bank the co-founders chose.

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Oldie but goodie on what actually happens when a bank is taken over. https://www.npr.org/2009/03/26/102384657/anatomy-of-a-bank-t...

will companies with money in SVB even be able to make payroll? Seems like this could cause huge issues in the short term and long term

Re: FDIC Takes over Silicon Valley Bank

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they turn into creditors of the bank to try to get the money back from asset sales. That could take years though it isn't quick

Isn't that a death sentence for a startup? Even if you get your money back years later, you're company is already dead because it can't make payroll. At that point, the money will just go back to the VCs?

basically but the FDIC usually comes in real quick if they think a collapse might happen. Rumor is there's enough assets to cover the loses but it just couldn't handle the run happening.

I believe SVB will be open for business on Monday

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40% of startups just had their bank accounts cut down to $250k, so... a lot.

I'm not sure how true this is. I worked at a startup that took in over $100m in investment, and I was curious so I asked the cofounder how they protected that. According to him the money was divided up into chunks smaller than $249k, pushed off to a custom entity made just for the purpose, and then invested in bonds or CDs on a rotating basis. I'm sure a lot of startups will be in trouble, but those that are working…

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