It's going to make the fediverse crumble from the load.
Meta is building a decentralized, text-based social network
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Re: Meta is building a decentralized, text-based social network
#242Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, everyone needs to explicitly "choose some list of moderators whose decisions you trust, and subscribe to their block lists"
That still implies either: A) Cheese pizza is permitted B) There are a "floor" of rules
That content is prohibited by law anyway so it's not really relevant to internet moderation standards anyway.
Re: Meta is building a decentralized, text-based social network
#243> Individual servers would let different groups set their own community standards, though likely with a “floor” of rules set by Meta, in a fashion similar to how Reddit’s individual communities work. This is not praise. Reddit bans people for expressing widely held beliefs. Subreddit mods are required to enforce the site-wide rules regardless of the subreddit's own preferences. As another commenter put it [1], the pr…
So everyone needs to explicitly block cheese pizza for themselves just so a few perverts can share that stuff in the name of "free speech"?
Or the police can do their job and catch pedos?
Re: Meta is building a decentralized, text-based social network
#244Why is this obsession with decentralized? I don’t see the benefits of it at all. A central server is better if they have a good moderation plan built in. This whole decentralized idea is to wash their hands off moderation and not take a blame for the hellhole it will become. From a pure functional point of view, how can a decentralized network provide any performance guarantee? What am I missing?
> Why is this obsession with decentralized?
One reason could be that decentralization reduces the liability on the company. They could save huge costs in letting users self-moderate and in not being responsible for illegal content.
Re: Meta is building a decentralized, text-based social network
#245Curious that the article speaks plenty about Dorsey and ommits the fact that he has been very active on the Nostr platform. Nostr is so far the only platform where I see a decentralized future. Mastodon does not provide portable identities that you can easily move to other servers, nor helps you to preserve your post from previous years. Nostr solved both obstacles. One private key, zero email addresses needed. Move…
You're conflating the limitations of Mastodon with the limitations of ActivityPub. ActivityPub does not require "email addresses" for identity - that's a Mastodon idiosyncrasy. Identities in ActivityPub are URLs, so as long as you own your domain you can preserve your identity. That's not too different than your identity being a public key, with the benefit of human readability. Mastodon doesn't offer you export/impo…
My previous text just mentions Mastodon limitations. Quite frankly couldn't really care less about ActivityPub or what it could do similar to Nostr (not even doing so today is already a bad thing in itself).
You yourself repeat the same castrating limitations "so long as you own your domain".
And that's the point. Most people: + don't own domains + don't want to own domains + don't need to own domains for the sake of identity
Nostr solved all that for free with private/public keys, a simple and battle-proven approach available since decades.
Re: Meta is building a decentralized, text-based social network
#246Earlier quoted context omitted.
The ads aren't the problem of social networks. They are the problem of the Web. Usenets were the first social networks, but their monetization scheme didn't allow for mega international companies to exist: they were paid for to ISPs and ISPs only pay other ISPs for traffic, they don't pay for individual services. Email used to be the same way... sigh . Web became the platform that enabled for advertisement to be mixe…
This ignores the algorithmic ordering of social media feeds, which was unique to Facebook and then widely copied by all the other ad-ridden socials. There was no "connecting people" reason for them to do it, it was done because it made it easier to throw ads in to readers' feeds and make sure they'd be noticed.
>There was no "connecting people" reason for them to do it
Not all posts are equally important. If someone only has time to read 5 posts then they should see important life updates from their friends and what they are interested in and not just show you 5 posts from them same person about how much they enjoyed their dinner and how good it looked.
Re: Meta is building a decentralized, text-based social network
#247> Individual servers would let different groups set their own community standards, though likely with a “floor” of rules set by Meta, in a fashion similar to how Reddit’s individual communities work. This is not praise. Reddit bans people for expressing widely held beliefs. Subreddit mods are required to enforce the site-wide rules regardless of the subreddit's own preferences. As another commenter put it [1], the pr…
Suppose I create a bot and create millions of accounts. post in each article, now you're spending a huge, myriad of time just filtering/ignoring users.
Re: Meta is building a decentralized, text-based social network
#248What if, and hear me out: we ditch the idea of a better replacement social network and just ditch the concept in general? Let’s go back to not being bombarded by ads every 3rd post, to not getting lost in massive echo chambers, to not doom scrolling for 20-40% of our waking hours, being locked into mega platforms, etc... Is the proposition of “being more connected” really worth the downsides?
I think the ideal social network would just extend the natural social networks of real life.
Moxie at Signal was right when he said the real “social network” is just your phone contacts.
Re: Meta is building a decentralized, text-based social network
#249Earlier quoted context omitted.
This ignores the algorithmic ordering of social media feeds, which was unique to Facebook and then widely copied by all the other ad-ridden socials. There was no "connecting people" reason for them to do it, it was done because it made it easier to throw ads in to readers' feeds and make sure they'd be noticed.
>There was no "connecting people" reason for them to do it Not all posts are equally important. If someone only has time to read 5 posts then they should see important life updates from their friends and what they are interested in and not just show you 5 posts from them same person about how much they enjoyed their dinner and how good it looked.
Absolutely nothing about FB is optimized for the "I only have 5 minutes" user. The whole point is to be constantly scrolling because FB intentionally doesn't tell you what you may have missed.
Re: Meta is building a decentralized, text-based social network
#250Yeah. Meta is hiring, Meta is firing, Meta is about to publish their first coloring book, ML models available, discount mattresses, the boss-lost-his-mind-everything-has-to-go, Meta is taking VR to the next level, Meta is building a decentralized, text-based social network. Sure, sure. Good luck, Meta!
The bastardization of the term "decentralized" in this post has energy levels over 9000 for sure. Should be flagged as click-bait.
** What if it's going to be part of the Fediverse?